# Super-symmetric Stream cipher [closed]

What I want to know is, Is there a stream cipher with two modes Mode-1 (encrypt/decrypt) and Mode-2 (decrypt/encrypt)

i.e. it should be possible to encrypt and decrypt using Mode-1 and Mode-2 respectively and also it should be possible to encrypt and decrypt using Mode-2 and Mode-1 respectively.

Is it possible? if so let me know such stream cipher?

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 This is still not a coherent question. – CodesInChaos Jan 24 at 17:07 Assume if there is such a stream cipher, i.e. two outputs from two modes (Mode-1 and Mode-2) for the same Plain-Text and Key (password) is entirely different and each output is reversible using the same password and Mode-2 and Mode-1 respectively. What does it mean/imply? – Auth Jan 24 at 17:29 It means that if done well you have to independant stream ciphers – Alexandre Yamajako Jan 24 at 17:50 Is there any significance to naming encryption/decryption in different order for your modes? And what do you want out of those modes? Do you just want two independent stream ciphers? That's easily achieved using a KDF, no matter which stream cipher you use. – CodesInChaos Jan 24 at 17:58 If it is two independent stream ciphers then reversal from cipher-text-1 and cipher-text-2 to Plain-text may be difficult or not possible. Is it POSSIBLE mathematically to have SINGLE stream cipher with the above mentioned behaviour (super-symmetry)? i.e. Encryption: Mode-1: F(x, k) = y1; Mode-2: F-1(x, k) = y2; Decryption: Mode-2: F-1(y1, k) = x; Mode-1: F(y2, k) = x; where F is Mode-1; F-1 is Mode-2; x is plain-text; k is password/key; and y1 and y2 are two entirely different outputs. – Auth Jan 24 at 19:06
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## 1 Answer

Let a plaintext digit of n bits (n >= 1) be denoted by x and encryption/decryption in Mode 1 and Mode 2 be denoted by f1(x)/g1(x) and f2(x)/g2(x) respectively, i.e. g1(f1(x)) = g2(f2(x)) = x mod 2^n. From the symmetry between a function and its inverse, one has g1(f1(x)) = f2(g2(x)) = x mod 2^n. This is certainly fulfilled, if the system behaves in such a way that f1(x) = g2(x) and consequently f2(x) = g1(x). In case n = 1 one would have f1(x) = f2(x), which you said you don't want, but for n > 1 one can have f1(x) != f2(x) in general. Thus a permutation polynomial mod 2^n (n > 1) will qualify for the function f1(x) you are looking for. (For an implementation of such polynomials see my code JADE in http://s13.zetaboards.com/Crypto/)

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 What I need is a Single Cipher Method/process with two modes (F and F-1) and it should satisfy the following criteria: F-1(F(x, k), k) = F(F-1(x, k), k) = x; – Auth Jan 24 at 20:07 You obtain from the system at each step of your work, i.e. for the processing of an individual x, one function f1() (and hence also g1(), f2() and g2() as I said). The generation of that function f1(), and hence also the other 3 functions, is "dependent" on a single key that the user provides for running a certain algorithm in my code. Doesn't that fully satisfy your requirement? – Mok-Kong Shen Jan 24 at 20:18 [Addendum] The equation you just gave doesn't correspond to your OP. You should clearly distinguish between encryption and decryption in Mode 1 and encryption and decryption in Mode 2, as I have done. (BTW, a constant k is implicit in my description.) – Mok-Kong Shen Jan 24 at 20:32 It doesn't satisfy because my requirement is ONLY two functions using single key. – Auth Jan 24 at 20:34 I have (at each processing step) in fact only "one" function, namely f1()! The other 3 functions are automatically defined for a given f1(). g1() is the inverse of f1(), f2() is the same as g1(), g2() is the same as f1(). Do you see that? – Mok-Kong Shen Jan 24 at 20:39
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