A block cypher encryption algorithm built from applying three iterations of the original DES algorithm.

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Why do we use encrypt-decrypt-encrypt (EDE) in 3DES, rather than encrypting three times?

I'm wondering why we use encrypt-decrypt-encrypt (EDE) sequence in 3DES (also known as DES-EDE, TDES or TDEA) with three keys instead of three times encryption (EEE) with three different keys?
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Why is triple-DES using three different keys vulnerable to a meet-in-the-middle-attack?

Among other sources, this wikipedia entry states that triple DES using three seperate keys (k1, k2, k3) is vulnerable to meet-in-the-middle-attacks, while triple DES using only two keys (k1, k2, k1) ...
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What does it mean if second half of 8-char string encrypted in 3DES is always identical?

In the recent Adobe passwords leak, presumably encrypted in 3DES ECB, second half of all 8-character passwords is identical: ioxG6CatHBw== Source: http://pastebin.com/iDTFARwq (guesses based on ...
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Why should CAST5 and 3DES not be used for encrypting files over 4GB?

On https://www.gnupg.org/faq/gnupg-faq.html#define_cast, it says that Like 3DES, its 64-bit block size means it should not be used to encrypt files larger than 4Gb in sizeā€¦ How and why does the ...
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Is there a security proof for the Triple-DES construction in the ideal cipher model?

Suppose one has an ideal block cipher $E \: : \: \{0,\hspace{-0.04 in}1\hspace{-0.03 in}\}^k \times \{0,\hspace{-0.04 in}1\hspace{-0.03 in}\}^w \: \to \: \{0,\hspace{-0.04 in}1\hspace{-0.03 in}\}^w \;...
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Is TripleDES 168bit vulnerable to Differential Cryptanalysis?

I was reading this paper. In the table-1 of the paper it says TripleDES (showing both 128bit and 168bit keysize) is vulnerable to Differential Cryptanalysis. It also says that AES (showing all three ...
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Has a Two Key TDES encryption ever been successfully attacked?

Is there any known instance of a Two Key TDES ever being successfully attacked (in real life), when the key is used to encrypt less than $2^{20}$ words?
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Brute Force on 3DES with Reduced Keyspace and Unknown IV

I'm trying to brute force a 3DES problem given a reduced keyspace (ie I know the first half of the key) but with an unknown IV. The code decrypts to plaintext. My first thought was that I could set ...
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Does anyone have a KAT for 3DES KO-2?

Does any one have, or can refer to a Known-Answer-Test (KAT) for Triple DES Keying Option 2? (Keying Option 2 means $C = DES_{k_1}(DES^{-1}_{k_2}(DES_{k_1}(P)))$ for encryption and $P = DES^{-1}_{k_1}...
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Composition of block ciphers and 3DES

There is some intriguing things about DES and 3DES. Now, I know that DES is weak and 3DES was an attempt to construct a more secure block-cipher from a deprecated one. Having this in mind, what ...
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How to calculate leaked information from a check digit

Given a check digit calculated using mod 11, of an encrypted numeric sequence of 8 digits, how much information can be known about the plaintext? More specifically, a single 3DES encrypted CBC block ...
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Have these compositions of block ciphers the same security?

I'm interested by the compositions of the block cipher DES, instantiated with independent keys $k_1$, $k_2$ and $k_3$. Are these 3 compositions equivalent in terms of security? $$DES_{k_1}(DES_{k_2}(...
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Why does 3DES need private key to decrypt?

I create two files, my.cer and my.pem ( include certificate and private key), I encrypt a file with my.cer, I use openssl smime -encrypt command. When decrypting data, it needs my.pem. I think 3DES ...
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Do 2DES and 3DES2 have the same effective key length?

I am following the notes "Introduction to Modern Cryptography" by Bellare and Rogaway, and on the chapter about blockciphers there is the following claim (page 11 of https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~mihir/...
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Question on 3DES keys

The official NIST publication I saw says for federal applications 3DES with three keys should be used. I have such questions: what does it mean federal? Does it mean for industrial applications that ...
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What is U2FsdGVkX1?

Using CryptoJS 3.1 I noticed that using 3Des, the encrypted message always start with U2FsdGVkX1 Why is the first part of the encryption always the same? What information does this hold and ...
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Generating an IV for ESP 3DES-CBC

I have an application written in C, running in Linux. It uses IPsec (ESP) (manually putting the IPSec packet together) to send certain packets. The algorithm used ...
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Key expiration policy for 3DES / TDES / Triple DES

I have a system that signs plain text messages using a message authentication code (MAC) encrypted with 3-key Triple DES. The short message is used on connection to establish a session key, so it ...
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Can ECB mode really leak some characters?

In an Ars Technica article about Adobe's use of 3DES in ECB mode, there's a paragraph The passwords, according to password expert Steve "Sc00bz" Thomas, are encrypted in a mode known as ECB. That ...
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Why do 1st and 3rd key have to be the same in 2 key 3DES?

From this answer: However, that wasn't the only situation they had in mind; they also considered the case where someone implemented 2 key 3DES in hardware (which the first and last subkeys ...
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Can the key-complement property of DES be used against 3DES?

The comments in this recent question about the security of 3DES made me wonder if the key complement property of DES (which reduces its security by ~1 bit) can be used in the meet-in-the-middle attack ...
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ANSI X9.31 standards for generating random numbers

The NIST-Recommended Random Number Generator Based on ANSI X9.31 Appendix A.2.4 Using the 3-Key Triple DES and AES Algorithms has 3DES being used three times for each 64-bit block of random data ...
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OpenSSL des-ede3 not producing same output as test vector implies it should be

I'm encrypting one of the standard TDEA/3DES/DES-EDE test vectors with openssl: ...
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Does 3-DES take approximately the same time to encrypt 1B and 1KB?

I am using 3-DES to encrypt some data in Java. I decided to run some tests and plot some graphics to decide how to optimally pack data for its encryption (see how encryption/decryption time behave ...
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Find out which keying option is being used in Triple DES?

As far as I know, there are three standard options for the three keys $K_1$, $K_2$ and $K_3$ used by 3DES: Three distinct keys. The first and last key are equal: $K_1$ = $K_3$. Three equal keys: $...
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Triple-DES DUKPT CBC PIN variant vs Data variant

Does any know the difference between triple des dukpt decryption algorithm with PIN variant and Data variant? I have done Triple DES DUKPT PIN variant, which generate session key from KSN and BDK. ...
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3DES over Galois Counter Mode (GCM) for authenticated encryption

Is it possible to use DES or 3DES over Galois Counter Mode (GCM) to provide authenticated encryption? I haven't seen any implementation yet.
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Key sizes supported by 3DES

I read about 3DES encryption but I don't understand exactly what the specific meaning of key size is. For example I found that 3DES supports 64, 128, 192, and 256 bits key size. What are all the ...
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Output of using the same key in all 3 boxes of 3DES

I am trying to figure this one out: What would be the encrypted output for an input x if the same key K is used in all three boxes of 3DES? The encryption scheme for 3DES with three different keys, ...
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Effective key length of Two-Key Triple-DES

What's the effective key length of Two-Key Triple-DES, for some (possibly several) reasonably well-defined and sensible definitions of effective key length, say assuming attack using ample chosen ...
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Is a 4DES or 5DES system possible?

We know that 3DES is created with $E_{K_3}(D_{K_2}(E_{K_1}(m)))$ to extend DES's key length. Is it possible to extend it further by repeating this pattern? Perhaps using $E_{K_5}(D_{K_4}(E_{K_3}(D_{...
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Parity of an encrypted key

Does encrypting a double-length 3DES application key (that has an odd parity) under a double-length 3DES zone master key (also with an odd parity) affect the parity of the application key?
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Why is Triple DES not vulnerable to meet in the middle attacks?

Consider the Triple DES encryption calculated as: $$C= E_{K_1}(D_{K_2}(E_{K_1}(P))).$$ For a chosen plaintext attack, given plaintext $P$, we compute the result of $D_{K_2}(E_{K_1}(P))$ and store ...
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c# Correct Triple Des Block Encryption Usage

I found the below code online, but in its original state, the encryption was not using any padding (Padding.None), and was encrypting in blocks of 8. I wasn't able to get this code to properly encrypt ...
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Process of dividing 168bit key into 56bit keys in TripleDES

I used TripleDES so many times but never thought about this. In TripleDES it requires 168bit ...
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Different tools return different ciphertext value for equal input

I have a Luna G5 Safenet HSM and I want to encrypt a text file containing testtest with 3DES-ECB algorithm. So in the first step ...
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How can 3DES encryption use decryption in the middle step?

I have been reading about the 3DES algorithm and I cannot understand one part. In 3DES we do following operation: $$C=E[K_3,D[K_2,E[K_1,P]]].$$ Where $C$ is ciphertext, $P$ is plaintext, $E$ is DES ...
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Triple DES as cryptographic hash function

I need to generate a hash for a small piece of data (~50 bytes). I'd normally use MD5 or SHA but that's not available in the platform I'm programming for. Luckily, it provides Triple DES and I ...
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What is the complexity for attacking 3DES in linear or differential cryptanalysis?

I know that 3DES is NOT vulnerable to DC , LC . But is it because the attacks requires too many input\output pairs ? Or because it's impossible ? (i.e requires more than 2^64 pair )
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3DES Modes EED orEDE?

Can we use EED with 2 keys (K1 K1 K3) rather than EDE (k1,k2,k1) ? We measure the strength of DES by the effort (in term of number of tries) in finding some K1 & K2 to match a known plaintext and ...
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Regain 3DES ECB key, assuming I have both encrypted and decrypted text

Let's assume I've encrypted some text with some 24-byte key using 3DES in ECB mode. Is it possible to regain the key if I have both encrypted and decrypted text? (Excluding bruteforce.)
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test vectors for 3DES seem to in fact be testing DES - not 3DES

NIST SP 800-20 Appendix A has what presumably are supposed to be test vectors for 3DES except almost all of the test vectors utilize 8-byte keys and not the 24-byte keys that 3DES is supposed to have. ...
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IPsec authentication and encryption lgorithms

I am looking for the implementation of IPsec security algorithms for both authentication and Encryption. Is there any open source implementation available for the same ? And if someone supposed to ...
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Must the ciphertext be longer than the key for symmetric encryption?

I am planning to encrypt the different fields of a database independently, using a symmetric encryption scheme (probably 3DES). Since some of the fields are as small as an integer, may that be ...
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Triple DES with 2 keys

Suppose triple DES is performed by choosing two keys $K_1$ and $K_2$ and computing $C = T (T (T (L, K_1), K_2), K_2)$. How to attack this modified version with a meet-in-the-middle attack, in which ...
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Need help with PKCS#12 3 key triple des key expansion

I am trying to decrypt PKCS8-Shrouded Key Bag inside a PKCS#12 pfx file. The oid for the encrypted data is PbeWithSHAAnd3-KeyTripleDES CBC. Iteration count and salt has been provided within the pfx ...
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Attacks on Full TripleDES [closed]

I have been reading about attacks and many of them work on specific rounds of TripleDES but not on full TripleDES. Is there any attack except brute force that works on full TripleDES? (theoretical)
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Discrepancy with reported key size for EDE ciphers in Qualys SSL Labs

The following two cipher suites were reported by Qualys SSL Labs as being 112-bit: SSL_CK_DES_192_EDE3_CBC_WITH_MD5 TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA However, all other references I can find say that ...
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Calculating 3DES Key Check Value (KCV)

I am trying to verify a Triple DES Key Component generated by PC Crypto. The key portion is: E6F1081FEA4C402CC192B65DE367EC3E and the KCV value that should be ...
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Which bytes in an OTA Command Package are encrypted with the KIc by 3DES CBC?

I have an un-ciphered OTA message in clear and I am trying to cipher it so it becomes secure data. The cryptographic checksum is already generated as part of the un-ciphered OTA message. I have the ...