In cryptography, a key derivation function (or KDF) derives one or more secret keys from a secret value such as a master key or other known information such as a password or passphrase using a pseudo-random function. Keyed cryptographic hash functions are popular examples of pseudo-random functions ...

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Concepts for realization in applied cryptography [on hold]

I'm a computer science student (not a mathematican) and I'm gonna to write a master degree diploma on applied cryptography. Specifically, I'd like to create a realization of some cryptographic stuff ...
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Is entropy being lost when the hash of a secret has a specific format?

Bitcoin's mini private key format works by brute forcing random data to produce a secret so that when appending ? and then hashing with sha256 it will produce a ...
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one complex password as a “seed” for localy generated per-service passwords

I've stumbled upon a project that suggests a way of having to remember one password, from which a “per-service password” could be generated by salting the service name using scrypt. What could be a ...
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Software interface for KDF and PBKDF?

I'm working on an implementation of Krawczyk and Eronen HKDF from RFC 5869. From Krawczyk's original paper, he identifies four inputs to a KDF in Cryptographic Extraction and Key Derivation: The HKDF ...
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Derive cipher IV and cipher Key using PBKDF2 with random salt?

It is said that cipher IV does not have to be secret and the only secret component of the encryption scheme should be a cipher key. Question: is it safe to generate IV using PBKDF2 function, which ...
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SHA256_HMAC for deriving session keys using a counter

I need to generate some session keys from a master key that was generated from an ECDH key exchange. The master key is 256 bits and I need 256 bit sessions keys. Is it safe to use SHA256_HMAC with ...
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What's wrong with an iterative (with counter) hashed salted KDF?

It seems like the brain-dead simplest KDF would have a key-stretching structure that is not substantially different from $\text{hash}(S | P | S | P |\dots|S|P)$, where $S$ is a salt and $P$ is a ...
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Differences between HMAC and HKDF in a specific case

I want to use a key derivation function to derive a key to another one. I think HKDF is the easiest solution in my case. The following picture gives a clear definition of it : ...
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Why don’t all AES encryption tools produce the same key from the same password?

Alice and Bob meet regularly. They have agreed face-to-face a 128 bit password which they want use to encrypt/decrypt emails written between them. They decide to use 256-bit AES. Alice wrote her ...
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Hardening of random number generators

Boxcryptor uses various CSPRNGs and apparently hashes the output using PBKDF2 to derive the final key. Even though the choice of ...
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Is there a tangible benefit in keeping the number of PBKDF iterations secret and not storing them with the ciphertext?

Suppose I have a local file and it is encrypted with a symmetric key derived from a strong passphrase, unique salt and $x$ number of PBKDF (e.g. Scrypt) iterations. I am interested in keeping this ...
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Is it safe to derive two different keys with the same password and key derivation function using two different salts?

I would like to know if the following process would harm the security of a fictional system if the persisted data would be stolen: in this system a user has a single password. The password will be ...
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Key iteration count while using random keyfile larger than master key

If I were to have a 4096-bit file of random data (/dev/random) used as a keyfile for LUKS, would there be any benefit to having a key iteration count higher than 1? My reasoning is that the attacker ...
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Can a cryptographic hash be used as a cryptographic RNG?

Say I roll a six sided die 200 times (6^200 = ~2^517) and string all the results together into a long string of numbers and hash then result with SHA-512. Can I use that result for cryptographic ...
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Different keys for clients but 1 key on server

Is it possible to have different keys on alot of (embedded) devices and just have 1 key on a server (to witch all these devices connect)? The main point here being when 1 device is compromised this ...
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correct usage of keys and nonce

I've being studying up on AES, GCM, CBC, HMAC and a lot of other primitives and am somewhat ( a little bit, perhaps) familiar with them however I am still a bit weary on the use of the keys and nonce. ...
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What is a Key Derivation Function?

From Wikipedia: In cryptography, a key derivation function (or KDF) derives one or more secret keys from a secret value such as a master key or other known information such as a password or ...
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What is the proper way to generate a fixed length key from a variable length password?

The password is entered by the user and the key is processed locally. Neither the password nor the key will be stored, only used and forgotten (but hopefully not by the user). Is SHA256 by itself ...
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KDFs for symmetric encryption master key & serial number

Let's assume that I generate a high entropy AES master key (through /dev/random for example) and I want to derive it with a fixed-length serial number (12345 for instance). The derived key is used to ...
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New to cryptology, studying key exchange

I'm just getting an overview of some of the concepts in key exchanging at the moment, and I'm a bit disoriented on a few topics, namely key stretching, key derivation functions and perfect forward ...
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chaining multiple key derivation functions together

I was looking at PBKDF2, bcrypt and scrypt as options for key derivation; and would like to try using them all together in order to get the cryptographic strength of the strongest one (which seems to ...
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Deterministically generate a RSA public/private key pair from a passphrase (with sufficient entropy)?

Is it possible to deterministically generate public/private RSA key pairs from passphrases? Would giving the (key generating) algorithm data made from key-stretching the passphrase (instead of a ...
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PBKDF2 for login key, scrypt for encryption key

I need to derive two keys from a single password client side. One for in-browser login, the other for encryption. Is the following secure ? ...
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Does key derivation with known parameters add any security?

First up: this is a question about a concept that I try to wrap my head around; it is not about the specific implementation. Anyway… I have the following scenario (simplified to show the problem I ...
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How secure is it to use password as AES key?

I am developing a steganography app where user encrypt any file into an audio file. The user can enter a password to protect the hidden data. The same password is converted as a 256 bit key and the ...
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Is it possible: Derived key based on variable number of private keys?

I have a MySQL database that I want to encrypt with AES_ENCRYPT() and have to provide access to a variable and possibly changing number of users. Is it possible to derive an encryption key based on a ...
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How does multi platform encrypted cloud storage work?

I'm really interested in end-to-end encrypted cloud storage and couldn't find out how following scenario could work: A user of a cloud provider which provides zero-knowledge-authentication (like for ...
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What is the algorithm behind PasswordDeriveBytes?

Microsoft has created an implementation of PBKDF1 in the PasswordDeriveBytes class. It can however generate more bytes than PBKDF1, which is limited to the number ...
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Share encrypted files without giving master key

Imagine I have four files I want to encrypt. I have master key, and from that master key I derive four keys, one for each file: ...
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Is the salt used with PBKDF2 secret?

I have two network endpoints that need to use the same derived key. Can the server send the salt to the client 'in the clear'?
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Many single-time use keys encryption scheme (not Shamir's Shared Secret)

I'm looking for encryption scheme with the following properties: There's a sequence of keys that can be used to decrypt the message Strictly only one key from the sequence is required to decrypt the ...
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Is it safe to salt a MAC?

Say that I define a scheme where the salt is public and is MAC-ed with the message: $k = KDF(password, salt)$ $tag = MAC_k(salt || message)$ Is it safe to salt the MAC this way? Assume that the salt ...
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Secure way to derive separate encryption and MAC keys from a single master key?

I want to derive a 256 bit encryption key and a 256 bit MAC key from a single 256 bit master key for an authenticated encryption scheme. I was considering the following construction to derive the two ...
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Does a stream cipher require a KDF when it's key is variable length?

RC4 has a variable length key. Is it still necessary to use a key derivation function, such as PBKDF2, to initialize it? Would using a single character password weaken it's output when compared to a ...
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Is it safe to derive a password from a signature provided by ssh-agent?

I'd like to use a password-based system on a remote host (accessed via SSH) without having to copy-and-paste the password and without storing it on disk. Using the system with some other form of ...
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Key management protocol for end-to-end security on Advanced Metering Infrastructure

I am currently working on a research on end-to-end security implementation for Advanced Metering Infrastructure (AMI). Pardon me if I a bit off topic or not asking the right question as I am ...
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Is it possible to 'fake' time for TOTP? (Time-based One-time Password)

TOTP (Time-based One-Time Password) Algorithm is used in Two factor authentication. I understand the algorithm and that current time is used as a variable to generate a token. Wiki page for reference: ...
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Why don't we use bcrypt and scrypt together?

Everyone is comparing bcrypt to scrypt. Bcrypt is proven, lots of cryptoanalysis and no vulnerabilities so far, but uses very low memory. While scrypt uses a lot of memory, but it's too early in its ...
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Implementing a web app where the server cannot decrypt its own data?

I'm a cryptography novice, but I think that the world needs to move towards an "encrypt everything" mentality as much as possible. As a result, I've been thinking a lot about ways to build a web app ...
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ECIES: Purpose of optional shared information?

According to Wikipedia the ECIES algorithm has two optional shared information $S_1$ and $S_2$. They are used as follows: Generate a random shared secret $Z$ according to ECIES, which will never be ...
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Counter Mode: how to choose the nonce part of the counter? [duplicate]

Suppose: The "counter field" is about: NONCE || CTR-VALUE. I have multiples messages $M_a, M_b, M_c, \dots$ Each message can be divided into x-bits blocks ($M_{a1}, M_{a2}, M_{a3}, \dots$). Each ...
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Is it secure to derive an AES key from a MAC?

I'm working on a project where we need to encrypt a large number of files and store them on the cloud. And I'm wondering if the following process would be secure (we have a “Hardware Security Module” ...
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Is this a plausible PBKDF?

Background: Hello, I'm working on a hobby project in which I might want to implement a key derivation function within a somewhat resource limited embedded system. For standard crypto functions, I ...
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Entropy Loss of KDFs

Am I losing any entropy when using KDFs, such as the ones in NIST Special Publication 800-108? For example, can I derive 128-bit session keys from a (uniformly random) 128-bit master key?
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Combining two keys

What is the most secure way to combine two "random" keys X of size k (k ≤ 512 bits) and Y of size 512 bits in one key Z of size k? Result Z will be used for encryption/decryption with various ...
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Session-specific Symmetric Key Derivation Using SHA256

I was wondering if there were any security implications of deriving session keys from a symmetric key using SHA256 in the following manner: $Ks = SHA256(Nonce||K)$, where $Nonce$ is the session ...
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Key Derivation from random salted seed, HMAC and HMAC based KDF

I would like to generate a key which would be good enough to be used for encryption with AES in a mobile environment. My idea is to use as a seed ''random attributes'' from a mobile device. Is hashing ...
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Can a EC private key be derived from a public key?

I understand that the public key does not expose the private key. That is not the question. The question is: Given a EC public key, can a different, but plausible and functional private key be ...
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Is SHA256 good enough to shrink a key?

I have a key that is the combination of two shorter keys generated by PBKDF2, which together are long more or less 64 bytes. Now I need to shrink it down to 32 bytes and I'm not sure what to use to do ...
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Encrypt-then-MAC: full random keys or keys derived from master key?

I have this scenario where I use Encrypt-then-MAC (AES256-CBC and HMAC-SHA256) with keys generated by a CSPRNG (specifically, SecureRandom in Java). I'd like to know which is better: Use the CSPRNG ...