In cryptography, a key derivation function (or KDF) derives one or more secret keys from a secret value such as a master key or other known information such as a password or passphrase using a pseudo-random function. Keyed cryptographic hash functions are popular examples of pseudo-random functions ...

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Need help with PKCS#12 3 key triple des key expansion

I am trying to decrypt PKCS8-Shrouded Key Bag inside a PKCS#12 pfx file. The oid for the encrypted data is PbeWithSHAAnd3-KeyTripleDES CBC. Iteration count and salt has been provided within the pfx ...
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Is it safe to derive a password from a signature provided by ssh-agent?

I'd like to use a password-based system on a remote host (accessed via SSH) without having to copy-and-paste the password and without storing it on disk. Using the system with some other form of ...
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DES Key Schedule Algorithm

Reading through the DES Specification it says that the keys are permuted with PC-1 initially and then shifted left both $C$ and $D$. However, before it gets ...
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Cycling hashing in PBKDF's and their limitations in strength?

I hope this question isn't too similar to one that's already been asked. I also want to point out I know part the answer already, AFAIK: I just want some expert input on this. Let's model a hash that ...
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Faster alternative to HKDF

HKDF is used in one of my projects to derive separate keys from a common master key. But profiling has shown it to be the performance bottleneck under certain circumstances. Is there any faster ...
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Private and Public Keys

I have a very basic understanding of encryption and the encapsulation process, but for the life of me I can't grasp how public keys and private keys work, how they're made, and how they're exchanged. ...
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Would it be better to use HKDF or SCrypt for deriving a child key?

Okay so I'm trying to derive a child public key from an EC public key. I've come up with a couple ideas and now I'd like to know which is more secure. Mp: The master key pair, this includes a ...
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Mathematical formula for switching the key for OTP?

Instead of generating the random key for the one time pad cipher over and over again, is there a mathematical formula that allows you to switch the key to a new key? The new key must be as random and ...
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On AES, is a true random string enough for a key?

The string (32 ASCII characters) is entered by a human, and considered truly random. Should a key derive from this string, or it is secure to use this string as a key directly? In other words, does ...
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NMaster key from n secret key

I have to derive master key from N secret key. With the help of master key, i can collect all the secret keys which is used to derive master key. key1, key2,..keyN ==> single master key and single ...
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Big block cipher as memory-hard function

I'm wondering, if something like block cipher with big block size is a good memory-hard function? All memory-hard key derivation functions I've seen look more complex than that, which made me ...
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Symmetrical Block Encryption with Synchronised Remote Key Change

I'm considering a theoretical design of a walkie talkie, with strong encryption. My current idea is to use symmetrical block encryption, but with the key changing at regular time intervals without a ...
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Memory hardness of key derivation function through XOR-ring multiple matrix values

For theoretical purposes in order to enhance my own understanding, and NOT in order to create my own cryptography, I am asking a question about the memory-hardness of a key derivation function ...
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Memory hard key derivation (password hash) using AES encryption

I am restricted on a certain environment involving PHP and am currently unable to implement new memory hard hashes such as scrypt (and I am not trying to compete with the likes of scrypt). My ...
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Can Pseudorandom values be used as secure keys?

I want to derive $n$ keys from a master key. I pick a master key $mk$ and use pseudo-random function (PRF) to generate $n$ pseudo-random values, $v_i=PRF(mk,i)$ where $1\leq i \leq n$. Next, I use ...
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Key Derivation Function (KDF): Can a key derived from KDF be considered as a secure key?

Consider a case where we have a master key MS that is used in pseudo-random function to generate a set of pseudo-random values. Then we use key derivation function to derive a key from each of ...
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argon2 versus bcrypt/PBKDF2 password hashing security gain

I wonder if it can be approximated how much of a security margin the new argon2 hash, winner of the password hashing competition, can give over bcrypt or PBKDF2, for an attacker using large GPU ...
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Encryption and HMAC key derivation

I'm deriving keys from a user-supplied passphrase for symmetric encryption using AES-256 in CBC mode with a HMAC for authenticity/integrity. My key derivation function currently looks like this: ...
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Is it true that 7zip doesn't use any salt with its KDF?

This issue claims that 7zip does not use any salt with its key derivation function: https://github.com/magnumripper/JohnTheRipper/issues/1679 If that's true, wouldn't that mean you can crack multiple ...
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How can one securely generate an asymmetric key pair from a short passphrase?

Background info: I am planning on making a filehost with which one can encrypt and upload files. To protect the data against any form of hacking, I'd like not to know the encryption key ($K$) used for ...
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Key derivation function in theory & practice

I am implementing a cryptographic protocol and I'd like to generate a set of seeds using a seed for a pseudo-random function. The reason is that I can pass on only one seed and it can be used to ...
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How is a group element converted into a key?

I've only just started research on cryptography so I apologize if this is a basic question or I'm getting terms confused. I'm researching braid group cryptography and currently looking at the ...
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ECDH security when no KDF is used

Let's suppose our device performs ECDH with a fixed, unknown, private key $prv$. It accepts as input any point $Q$ lying in the proper subgroup of the proper ellipict curve, then computes: $P = ...
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Which method to generate one time password?

I'm looking for a concrete algorithm to generate one time passwords. The situation is as follows: Alice and Bob exchanged a passphrase over a secure channel in the beginning. They want to ...
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Public Key Encryption using ECDHE and AES-GCM

Using a text book example, Alice and Bob want to communicate securely using encrypted messages over an insecure channel (the Internet). Alice and Bob have decided to use ECDH (using ephemeral keys ...
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Memory hard password based key derivation functions?

How are memory hard functions designed for the purpose of password based key derivation? To protect against a brute force attack from a parallel machine. What design could work well with Skein? The ...
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AES-256 mode with per-block-key being a SHA-256 of SHA-256 of secret key, random public salt and block number. What's amiss?

Please criticize the (homebrew?) mode described below; to point out a single major defect/uncertainty or the link to (the analysis of) an equivalent construction is quite enough. Assume the ...
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PBKDF2 for key diversification

I am looking for a secure key diversification function to create individual AES keys for a local smart card deployment. The keys need to be derived from a secret master key and the smart card serial ...
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Hash functions vs. keyed hash functions in the context of private key generation

I'm designing a key distribution mechanism and have thought of using a securely generated/acquired private key as a seed for a sequence of private keys to be distributed to a number of users using a ...
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How to derive a key from an existing AES key?

Currently, the code I am staring at uses the CKM_EXTRACT_KEY_FROM_KEY mechanism. That has been disabled in our hardware module, so I need a different mechanism to ...
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How to generate backup key for PBKD functions?

I would like to encrypt some files using AES, Ill derive key from password using some standard PBKD function and use that as AES encryption key. My question is, if user forgets the main password, ...
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Is this scheme to derive multiple keys secure?

I need a cryptographic scheme to generate a deterministic chain of private keys that look random to outside observer but can always be reconstructed from a single root key, also: Neither private ...
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How is a public/private key pair generated from a Diffe-Hellman key exchange?

I very well understand the DH key exchange. But what is the public key and private key at the end of the exchange. For example: Alice and Bob agree to use a modulus $p = 23$ and base $g = 5$ (which ...
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Practical benefit of using a KDF?

I see that KDFs should be used in systems that rely on PSKs, but what practical benefit does it provide? For instance, suppose the system relies on a shared secret for AES encryption and decryption. ...
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Obtain 384 bits from a 256bit MasterSecret

I'm currently implementing, with crypto++, and AES tranmsission system, whose key is based on a previous ...
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AES-CTR with ephemeral keys vs IV

Let's say that we have a key exchange of some sort, which leaves A and B sharing the long-term secret $S$. Then, A and B want to use AES-CTR for the communication, which leaves us with several ...
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How does FileVault2 Recovery actually work?

I'm a crypto-enthusiast but no expert at all, that'll explain why i didn't understand. Also please consider english isn't my native language :) I am about to enable FileVault2 FDE on the new macbook ...
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How to derive a symmetric key from ECDH shared secret?

I am trying to implement the internal primitives of ECDH. Currently I'm able to multiply the receiver's public EC point with the sender's private key to arrive at the shared EC point. Next step is to ...
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What is a Key Derivation Function?

From Wikipedia: In cryptography, a key derivation function (or KDF) derives one or more secret keys from a secret value such as a master key or other known information such as a password or ...
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Concepts for realization in applied cryptography [closed]

I'm a computer science student (not a mathematican) and I'm gonna to write a master degree diploma on applied cryptography. Specifically, I'd like to create a realization of some cryptographic stuff ...
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Is entropy being lost when the hash of a secret has a specific format?

Bitcoin's mini private key format works by brute forcing random data to produce a secret so that when appending ? and then hashing with sha256 it will produce a ...
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Why don't we use bcrypt and scrypt together?

Everyone is comparing bcrypt to scrypt. Bcrypt is proven, lots of cryptoanalysis and no vulnerabilities so far, but uses very low memory. While scrypt uses a lot of memory, but it's too early in its ...
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SHA256_HMAC for deriving session keys using a counter

I need to generate some session keys from a master key that was generated from an ECDH key exchange. The master key is 256 bits and I need 256 bit sessions keys. Is it safe to use SHA256_HMAC with ...
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one complex password as a “seed” for localy generated per-service passwords

I've stumbled upon a project that suggests a way of having to remember one password, from which a “per-service password” could be generated by salting the service name using scrypt. What could be a ...
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Get permutations from password

Are there any "good" ways to get a permutation from a password/pass-phrase? If one, for example, wanted to get a permutation of letters from a password, how might one do that in a smart way? I would ...
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Software interface for KDF and PBKDF?

I'm working on an implementation of Krawczyk and Eronen HKDF from RFC 5869. From Krawczyk's original paper, he identifies four inputs to a KDF in Cryptographic Extraction and Key Derivation: The HKDF ...
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Derive cipher IV and cipher Key using PBKDF2 with random salt?

It is said that cipher IV does not have to be secret and the only secret component of the encryption scheme should be a cipher key. Question: is it safe to generate IV using PBKDF2 function, which ...
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What's wrong with an iterative (with counter) hashed salted KDF?

It seems like the brain-dead simplest KDF would have a key-stretching structure that is not substantially different from $\text{hash}(S | P | S | P |\dots|S|P)$, where $S$ is a salt and $P$ is a ...
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Why don’t all AES encryption tools produce the same key from the same password?

Alice and Bob meet regularly. They have agreed face-to-face a 128 bit password which they want use to encrypt/decrypt emails written between them. They decide to use 256-bit AES. Alice wrote her ...
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Differences between HMAC and HKDF in a specific case

I want to use a key derivation function to derive a key to another one. I think HKDF is the easiest solution in my case. The following picture gives a clear definition of it : ...