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The Password-Based Key Derivation Function 2 (PBKDF2) is a method of securely deriving encryption keys from a passphrase entered by a user. It features an iteration count that can be deliberately adjusted (key stretching) to slow down brute force password guessing attacks.

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Using bcrypt derived keys for encryption?

Sorry for this ignorant question but I am currently weighing up the advantages and disadvantages of BCrypt over PBKDF2 and from what I have read BCrypt is considered more secure but from what I have ...
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Storing salts and iteration number?

I have a function that derives two sub-keys from one passphrase using PBKDF2 one which is used as a encryption key the other for HMAC generation, because these two sub-keys will need to be regenerated ...
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Does google's Crypto.JS AES encryption use PBKDF2 as default?

Does google's Crypto.JS AES encryption use PBKDF2 as default? Some references, but I can't figure out the answer myself: https://code.google.com/p/crypto-js/#The_Cipher_Algorithms ...
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Database row level encryption scheme

I am wanting to secure some highly sensitive data in a database. This would mean that the data needs to be encrypted and remain secure for 100 years if it were to fall into adversary hands. I also ...
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INT_32_BE in PBKDF2

Trying to understand PBKDF2 in detail. It is clear that the password and the salt is given to the PRF (which is HMAC-SHA-1 in the specification). But what is the role of the INT_32_BE(i)? What does it ...
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Implementing a web app where the server cannot decrypt its own data?

I'm a cryptography novice, but I think that the world needs to move towards an "encrypt everything" mentality as much as possible. As a result, I've been thinking a lot about ways to build a web app ...
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Strong key generation using PBKDF

I know that PBKDF2 is very useful for generating strong keys. I'm trying to know is there any additional contribution of the given password to produce even stronger keys. Which key is more secure: ...
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PBKDF2-SHA256+SHA256 for password storage

I recently came across an interesting paper detailing the use of hardened session cookies. Each cookie includes a preimage of the password hash, and the preimage is hashed once more and compared to ...
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PBKDF2 Salt and Password Ordering

I am currently reading about PBKDF2, and understand that the salt is used only once, while the password is used multiple times in the computation of the final key (see this question). How would the ...
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Maximum password length in PBKDF2

Haven't found any clear cut answer in Google so its up to you guys: DK = PBKDF2(PRF, Password, Salt, c, dkLen) Here, what is the upper limit of password length? ...
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Importance of salt when deriving an encryption key

I'm very curious to know this and a bit confuses too: Suppose, I have two files encrypted using AES-128bit with keys PBKDF2-derived from the same password and the same salt. If an attacker does ...
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How long does it take to crack PBKDF2?

How much time will it take to crack PBKDF2 while using a 9 character password? I'm not specifying any specific system or platform. If a brute force attack is made using the best ever super computer ...
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Is there a practical upper limit for password rehashing?

When using PBKDF2, is there a practical upper limit to the iteration count above which we lose security? Note: If you answer “No”, that's fine. But if you answer: “There can't be an upper limit“, ...
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Is SHA256 good enough to shrink a key?

I have a key that is the combination of two shorter keys generated by PBKDF2, which together are long more or less 64 bytes. Now I need to shrink it down to 32 bytes and I'm not sure what to use to do ...
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Password-based encrypted key storage?

RFC 5959 specifies the encrypted storage of private keys based on PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA-256 and AES encryption (in ECB mode). Is there a particular reason AES is used, instead of simply XORing the key ...
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User-specified PBKDF2 password, salt, and iterations limits

For a decentralized login where a user is left to select the password, salt, and iterations, what minimums for each should be enforced? In other words, because none are ever stored by the ...
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Using PBKDF2 twice with different argument order

I'm pretty sure this is a really bad approach (in theory), but one of my clients is doing this and I was wondering… How bad it is to perform pbkdf-2 in this way (with 2000 iterations)? ...
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Is PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA1 really broken?

I just read through this article which demonstrates practical (and seemingly trivial) collisions in PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA1, and provides a few examples of collisions. Am I missing something here? Is ...
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What is the “purpose” byte in Crypto++ PBKDF2?

Does anyone know the purpose of the "purpose" byte in the PBKDF2 implementation in Crypto++? It appears that the PBKDF2 does not use this byte, but I want to make sure I am not setting the option to ...
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Right usage of PBKDF2 and login system questions

I'm developing the login part of my application and I was asking myself how to do it right. My application stores some users' data server-side that must be inaccessible from us, so all the content ...
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Rfc2898DeriveBytes - password length

Trying to find related answer for a long time, but not convinced yet. What I am trying is to encrypt using RijndaelManaged. To create Key, I am passing password, ...
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Strange Password Hashing

I know about PBKDF2, bcrypt, scrypt, etc. and while I'm not a crypt professional, I think I understand why are they better than just "hash(pass+salt)". But a colleague of mine surprised me with the ...
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pbkdf2 password validation

My question is related to PBKDF2. I am unsure how to validate user entered password with already existing hashes and salts. I have heard of the so called "length-constant" comparison which basically ...
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Encrypting a payload for transmission over HTTP. AES256 with PBKDF2

I've done some reading about implementing AES256 and deriving a key from a password. If I understand correctly: I want to generate a new salt (for the key) and a new IV (for the encrypted message) ...
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Best way to get 32 bytes from PBKDF2

Use the PBKDF2 output as an HMAC key, hashing two different inputs - once for 20 bytes and once for 12 : ...
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Derive both MAC and AES keys from same PBKDF2?

When doing password-based encryption, is it OK to create one instance of PBKDF2 from the password, and then use it to create both the AES key and the MAC key? (Or should a new instance of PBKDF2 be ...
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Using KDF output for password validation

I am currently revising an AES data format. I would like to determine whether a provided password/key is incorrect. Previously this was done by validating the HMAC, but this makes it impossible to ...
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Computing IV for CBC from PBKDF2 + HKDF

Note that this question is somewhat similar to Can I use my random IV (for AES) as a salt for PBKDF2? My current encryption format computes two random PBKDF2 salts (encryption and HMAC, 8 bytes each) ...
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Calculate entropy of key derived from PBKF2 function

I am using PBKF2 to derive a encryption key from a password. suppose entropy of my password is y and my PBKF2 function has x number of iterations. So how to calculate the entropy of finale key derived ...
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OpenSSL PBKDF2 documentation

I'm using OpenSSL 0.9.8 on OSX Maverick, and I want to use a PBKDF but I can't find any doc/man about it on OpenSSL's website. I'm working on QCA, an OpenSSL wrapper for Qt, and when I arrived there ...
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Are IVs and salts the same and usable for each other uses?

I'm new in the crypto world and I've just discovered PBKDF (I used to use typed passeword as symmetric key). When using some crypto mode, you're required to ...
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Encryption Key derivation from numeric PIN?

I want to store data encrypted within an Android application. Keeping an encryption key safe outside the app is not an option so I looked into password derived key algorithms. I found a nice example ...
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A key-derivation function that is as strong as the stronger of PBKDF2 and scrypt

I want a key stretching system that's as strong as the stronger of scrypt and PBKDF2. The consensus now is that scrypt is by far the better system, but that might change if in the future, a weakness ...
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Is scrypt a hashing function, encryption, or PBKDF?

I have installed a python implementation of scrypt and noticed it has several functions, both an encrypt and hash function. Yet Wikipedia lists it as being used for PBKDF instead of PBKDF2. Is scrypt ...
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PBKDF2WithHmacSHA512 Vs. PBKDF2WithHmacSHA1

I'm working on a Java authentication subsystem that specs the storage of passwords in the DB as PBKDF2-generated hashes, and I'm now trying to decide whether I ...
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AES file encryption with PBKDF2. Safe parameters?

I'm developing an application that will use public key authentication to contact some webservice. So the user has his keypair on his computer, and I want that file to be encrypted using AES with a key ...
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Proper way of doing encryption and authentication (PBKDF2 + AES)

I'm currently in the planning phase of an authentication and storage-ish service. The client needs a file ("ENCFILE") which he will work with. This file will be encrypted with AES256, and stored on ...
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bcrypt and pbkdf2 double hashing

If I want to protect myself from implementation of algorithm issues and inherent design flaws of algorithms in password hashing, what would be most secure way to combine two hashes? ...
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Can I dynamically calculate an appropriate number of iterations for PBKDF2 based on the system time, rather than using a fixed value?

Could you choose the number of PBKDF2 iterations based upon the system time? I've heard a few people recommend that the number of iterations for PBKDF2 should be doubled every two years (starting ...
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PBKDF2 uses HMAC-SHA1 to generate keys, but what is the key for the HMAC?

I was reading up on PBKDF2 and noted the following: DK = PBKDF2(PRF, Password, Salt, c, dkLen) PRF is a keyed HMAC, but I can't seem to find out what they use ...
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What's wrong with my security model - or how can it be attacked?

I'm working on a little personal project where security is very important, and I've thought for a while about the best way to do this. Now I am looking for a little outside help on good practices. The ...
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KDF and number of iterations for GPG

I gather, from reading the GPG manual, that symmetric encryption based on a password uses one of a variety of Key Derivation Functions (KDF). Although not explicitly mentioned I assume that PBKDF2 is ...
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How to use salt when there is only one user

I am encrypting files for storage in an untrusted location, using a custom Java program to do that. There is only one user, but there are many files. I am using AES in CBC mode with PKCS5 padding, and ...
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Securely generating passwords based on a secret and a public identifier

I'm trying to create a good scheme for generating passwords in my systems management scripts. What I'd like to do is have a secret key (let's say hello123), which I ...
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Is a PBKDF2-derived master key easier cracked if very many Data Protection Keys are derived from it?

I'm referring the NIST document about PBKDF2, NIST Special Publication 800-132, Recommendation for Password-Based Key Derivation, Part 1: Storage Applications, Page 8 and 9, section 5.4 Using the ...
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PKCS#11: Which CKK_types are supported by CKM_PKCS5_PBKD2?

On Solaris there's a function pkcs11_PasswdToKey() which is a wrapper of C_GenerateKey(). I made a simple test and it turned out ...
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Injecting salt into PyCrypto KDF - useful?

I have noted some sources indicate that when using a KDF like PBKDF2 (alternatively) some advocate injecting the salt at the time of execution - like this: ...
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How to derive two keys from one password

What is the best way to generate two independent symmetric keys from one user-entered password or passphrase? Would using both scrypt and pbkdf2 achieve this?
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What is the difference between Scrypt and PBKDF2?

After reading these two resources I am wondering am I getting all the differences between Scrypt and PBKDF2. As far as I understood, the similarity is: both are password-based key derivation ...
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PBKDF2 when dkLen and hLen have the same size

I was reading RFC 2898 and something is not clear to me. When I use PBKDF2 with SHA-256 and I want a derived key with length 32 bytes (the same length as my hash function output), your derived key ...