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Mar 30, 2020 at 18:07 history edited Captain Man CC BY-SA 4.0
Add Maeher's point about verifying your vote in secret paper ballot votes
Mar 30, 2020 at 17:58 comment added Captain Man @Maeher that's a good point, I don't know how many places that is really an option but this discussion has been about theory not practice. Yes, if a group watch their secret ballots go into the box and then get counted and all polling sites have their numbers listed publicly then yes, you can verify your vote was counted. -- I'll update the wording on my answer to specify that with paper votes you can verify if you observe the entire process.
Mar 30, 2020 at 16:28 comment added Maeher @CaptainMan Of course I can ensure that my vote is counted correctly. Since I can observe the entire voting process from sealing the empty ballot box to the hand-count of all cast ballots I can indeed verify that all ballot cast in my polling place (including mine) were counted correctly.
Mar 30, 2020 at 16:11 comment added Captain Man @fgrieu I added some more though so now I am sort of making a point for paper voting being better. Sorry, added it after I made the first comment so I cannot edit out that part about not suggesting one method is better. Sorry for the confusion!
Mar 30, 2020 at 16:09 history edited Captain Man CC BY-SA 4.0
Clarify "verifiable" and add point about "proof that it is insecure"
Mar 30, 2020 at 15:57 history edited Captain Man CC BY-SA 4.0
Clarify "verifiable"
Mar 30, 2020 at 15:56 comment added Captain Man @fgrieu I think you misunderstood me, when I said verifiable I meant a method for the voter personally to check that their vote was both cast and counted correctly. Regardless of method there is no way to have that while also having secret ballots. -- As for the bit about "why should we accept that risk", I'm not trying to suggest electronic or "traditional" voting is better in this answer. I'm just saying that for elections, most (all?) non-authoritarian countries have chosen secret ballots instead of open ballots and that blockchains cannot be secret ballots.
Mar 30, 2020 at 15:30 comment added fgrieu We only need to decide between these two bullet points for electronic voting. With manual voting, we get secret ballots (second bullet), and a practically sufficient degree of verifiable counting (first bullet), because altering the counts in many independent manual voting places without beeing detected is hard, and AFAIK unprecedented. Electronic voting makes voting more convenient, less error prone, and often harder to hack locally with prestidigitator skills, but all system that I know make large scale undetectable fraud by a few insiders possible. Why should we accept that risk?
Mar 30, 2020 at 14:34 history answered Captain Man CC BY-SA 4.0