# When adding two points on an elliptic curve, why flip over the x-axis?

Every introduction to elliptic curves that I've read hasn't explained this.

If you have two points P and Q on an elliptic curve, to find P+Q, you draw a straight line through the points, find the third point of intersection with the elliptic curve. To get P+Q, reflect across the x-axis. Why reflect across the x-axis?

For example, towards the bottom of this blog post they explain how to add two points on the curve, but not why you want to reflect across the x-axis.

Please ELI(someone who has taken a university crypto class that didn't cover ECC).

• You really don't want to read blog posts for something as deep as this; get a good book like those of Enge or Washington. – fkraiem Dec 16 '17 at 3:18
• ... especially not a blog post as bad as the one you linked. – fkraiem Dec 16 '17 at 3:21
• Did you take a look at this? jiggerwit.wordpress.com/2016/10/18/… Sorry @fkraiem, it is a blog post :-/ but this one come with an arXiv paper: arxiv.org/abs/1610.05278 – Cédric Van Rompay Dec 18 '17 at 9:24

If we did not make the final reflection, point multiplication would not be associative, we would not have a group, and we thus could not define a scalar multiplication the way we do, with the property $n\cdot A+m\cdot A=(n+m)\cdot A$ .

If operation $+$ is a group law, the operation $\boxplus$ defined on that group by $A\boxplus B=-(A+B)$ (which is what removing the reflection does) is generally not associative, because $$(A\boxplus B)\boxplus C=-(-(A+B)+C)=A+B-C,$$ while $$A\boxplus(B\boxplus C)=-(A-(B+C))=-A+B+C.$$ The only groups where $\boxplus$ is associative are those with 1 or 2 elements.

Associativity of point addition on an elliptic curve in fact is a non-trivial and fragile property. Messing with how we do point addition in almost any way (changing sign as proposed, using a curve with a different equation like an astroid..) breaks that property.

Comments by entrop-x and Rosie F provide an intuitive explanation: if three points $A$, $B$, $C$ on the curve are such that "point addition of $A$ and $B$ without final reflection yields $C=A\boxplus B$", then that statement holds for all 6 permutations of $A$, $B$ and $C$, and it can be reworded as "$A$, $B$ and $C$ are collinear" without consideration of the order of the points. In a group with law $+$, the simplest relation between 3 variables with that invariance under order is: $A+B+C=0$, and then we have $A+B=-C=-(A\boxplus B)$ (where the $-$ sign designates taking the opposite for law $+$ ), hence the final reflection to change $\boxplus$ into a group law $+$.

That intuitive explanation can be extended to justify that full point multiplication is associative!

• Spot on ! You can actually make it more intuitive, but your answer is clearly the clearest in rigorous terms. Intuitively, if one wouldn't flip the third point, A, B and C on the same line would be "equivalent" and we would have that A + B = C, A + C = B and B + C = A. Filling the B of the second into the first, we'd have A + A + C = C, or 2A = 0 if we assume a group law. But A and B are arbitrary. So every point is 0. – entrop-x Dec 16 '17 at 7:41
• Alternatively: the property "the points A, B, C are collinear" is symmetric in A, B, C. As @entrop-x said, $A+B=C$ fails. But $A+B+C=0$ succeeds, as + is commutative. $A+B+C=0 \iff A+B=-C$ and the $-$ corresponds to the flip. – Rosie F Dec 16 '17 at 9:19

Cryptographic operations on elliptic curves typically deal with scalar multiplication of points. That is, we pick a generator point $P$ and a random, secret integer $d$, and we add $P$ to itself $d$ times. This is easy to calculate, but it is very difficult to find out the value of $d$ given the points $P$ and $dP$.

Now consider a variant where we don't flip over the x-axis. First we calculate $2P$ by drawing a line tangent to the curve at point $P$, and call this $Q$. To calculate $3P$, we add $P + Q$, so we draw a new line that goes through $P$ and $Q$ -- but this is the exact same line, so the "third point" on the curve is $P$ itself. (There are only two intersecting points because the line is still tangent to the curve, so we consider the tangent point as two points.)

So to get a meaningful definition of scalar multiplication that is useful in cryptography, we need the flip across the x-axis to get a non-trivial cyclic group with an order larger than $2$.