# Curve25519's Y coordinate of Basepoint origin

The paper High-speed high-security signatures by Bernstein et al. introduces the Edwards curve Ed25519.

Concerning the base point $$B$$, it says that

$$B$$ is the unique point $$(x,4/5)∈E$$ for which $$x$$ is positive

and $$B$$ corresponds to the basepoint used on the birationally equivalent curve Curve25519.

So I haven't found on any site information about how do they get that $$4/5$$ value of the $$y$$ coordinate in order to get a small basepoint generator.

Is there any reason or origin of that $$4/5$$? How they determined that $$4/5$$ was part of the group $$2^{255} -19$$?

• related Base point in Ed25519? Mar 14 '19 at 23:06
• It's related but it doesn't answer my question. Thanks anyway! It's interesting what it's mentioned there Mar 14 '19 at 23:12

Over the field $$\mathbb Z/(2^{255} - 19)\mathbb Z$$, Curve25519 is the Montgomery curve $$v^2 = u^3 + 486662 u^2 + u,$$ and edwards25519 is the twisted Edwards curve $$-x^2 + y^2 = 1 - \frac{121665}{121666} x^2 y^2.$$ The curves correspond by the birational map
$$\begin{gather} x = \sqrt{-486664} \frac{u}{v}, \quad y = \frac{u - 1}{u + 1}; \\ u = \frac{y + 1}{y - 1}, \quad v = \sqrt{-486664} \frac{u}{x}. \end{gather}$$
The standard base point $$P$$ for the X25519 Diffie–Hellman function has $$u(P) = 9$$; the $$v$$ coordinate is not significant because X25519 works exclusively with $$u$$ coordinates, so there are two possible points, $$P = (9, \pm \sqrt{9^3 + 486662\cdot 9^2 + 9})$$. The choice of $$u(P)$$ is arbitrary as long as it corresponds to a point of large prime order—it can't affect security—but was made to be the smallest such integer. The standard base point $$Q$$ for Ed25519 signature was chosen to correspond to one of the possible choices for $$P$$, so $$y(Q) = \frac{u(P) - 1}{u(P) + 1} = \frac{9 - 1}{9 + 1} = 4/5;$$ then the $$x$$ coordinate of $$Q$$ was chosen arbitrarily from the two options.