Is it Probable to extract the ciphertext's genome and Visualizing it ?

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ciphers genome

Encryption is like grinding the meat, once you grind the meat you can not look at the meat tissue and guess is it cow or lamb, but if you collect a sample of the tissue and look at it under the microscope you can have a good guess or identify that this meat has once belonged to a cow, what I am looking for is that, in the process of encryption, the clear text flows from a pipeline (algorithm) to a ciphertext that no one can reverse it or guess the original message but I hope there should be some pattern that if we could visualize the ciphertext we find characteristic of it, but in a very complex image, way like the human genome. I know all the process, all the effort the mathematician has done in past decades was to securing and making it irreversible without having the keys. after spending a good amount of time in research, I still have no improvements, in my hypothesis, but still looking there for some pattern that we could be found, something new in number Theory or an Oracle, something that we never looked for it.
P.S.It is not about a tool, it is about the idea and theory behind it.

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    $\begingroup$ define genome. if there is an idea it is hard to tell. also you probably mean 'ciphertext' not cipher (the encoding scheme) $\endgroup$
    – kodlu
    Aug 8, 2021 at 1:14
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    $\begingroup$ A human genome is not randomized on purpose though, and a butcher will likely be able to guess the meat type without a microscope (color, smell, fat structures etc.), so there the analogies break down. $\endgroup$
    – Maarten Bodewes
    Aug 8, 2021 at 10:51
  • $\begingroup$ @MaartenBodewes what analogy would you choose, for comparing plaintext to ciphertext procedure? $\endgroup$
    – R1w
    Aug 8, 2021 at 19:57
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    $\begingroup$ Well, maybe we can do without analogy here; I'm not sure that the internal structure of a (symmetric) cipher is present anywhere in nature. $\endgroup$
    – Maarten Bodewes
    Aug 8, 2021 at 21:44

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I'll take the question as:

Is it possible to analyze ciphertext (encrypted with a large unknown key) and thus distinguish characteristics of the plaintext, like we can sequence minced meat and deduce information about the original meat?

Not for proper encryption. By definition of that, the only characteristic of the plaintext that can be distinguished from the ciphertext is size. Working meat analogy: mass. How can that be? A semi-working analogy would be that proper encryption minces down to 0/1 bits (proton/electron particles, in an hypothetical universe where that's the only two kinds).

Not all encryption is proper, though. For some kind of defective encryption, there are ways to find plaintext characteristics from ciphertext. E.g., for a cryptosystem combining poly-alphabetic substitution and transposition, we can find from the ciphertext the ratio of frequency of the most frequent to second most frequent plaintext symbols, because encryption conserves that quantity.

Also, encryption is proper with respect to a certain level of technology. Some ciphers that are proper against the unaided human brain are not against a computer. Some ciphers that are proper against classical computers might not be against quantum computers usable for cryptanalysis, that with enough imagination might become reality rather than hype.


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