Questions tagged [discrete-logarithm]

In cryptography, a discrete logarithm is the number of times a generator of a group must be multiplied by itself to produce a known number. By choosing certain groups, the task of finding a discrete logarithm can be made intractable.

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Are safe primes $p=2^k \pm s$ with $s$ small less recommandable than others as a discrete log modulus?

I take the definition of safe prime as: a prime $p$ is safe when $(p-1)/2$ is prime. Safe primes of appropriate size are the standard choice for the modulus of cryptosystems related to the discrete ...
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Security of Schnorr signature versus DSA and DLP

The Schnorr signature scheme is a randomized signature scheme with appendix. The signature is $3t$-bit for conjectured $t$-bit security in a chosen-messages setup, with at most $2^{t/2}$ queries to a ...
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Is it possible to generate backdoored DH parameters?

I know it has been already asked and answered whether it's possible to generate weak DH parameters. But "recentely" we experienced the Logjam attack, which makes use of the pre-computation ...
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Why can ECC key sizes be smaller than RSA keys for similar security?

I understand how ECC is based on the discrete log problem and RSA on integer factorization. I've read several references that show how a solution to either of these problems can typically be adapted ...
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What is so special about elliptic curves?

There seems to be sources like this, this also, and some introductions that discuss elliptic curves in general and how they're used. But what I'd like to know is why these particular curves are so ...
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What is the relation between Discrete Log, Computational Diffie-Hellman and Decisional Diffie-Hellman?

How are the three problems Discrete Logarithm, Computational Diffie-Hellman and Decisional Diffie-Hellman related? From my understanding, since the Discrete Log (DL) Problem is considered hard, then ...
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Would the ability to efficiently find Discrete Logs have any impact on the security of RSA?

This answer makes the claim that the Discrete Log problem and RSA are independent from a security perspective. RSA labs makes a similar statement: The discrete logarithm problem bears the same ...
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Why are elliptic curve variants of RSA “chiefly of academic interest”?

Yesterday I was thinking about elliptic curve variants of popular protocols/algorithms (ECDH, ECES[1], etc) and the thought occured that I had never seen an elliptic curve variant of RSA. My ...
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What should be the size of a Diffie-Hellman private key?

I'm implementing the SRP-6 protocol, which relies on discrete logarithms for it's security (essentially Diffie-Hellman). The RFC documents state: The private values $a$ and $b$ SHOULD be at least ...
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Do recent announcements about solving the DLP in $GF(2^{6120})$ apply to schemes proposed for cryptographic use?

A recent paper by Göloğlu, Granger, McGuire, and Zumbrägel: Solving a 6120-bit DLP on a Desktop Computer seems to "demonstrate a practical DLP break in the finite field of $2^{6120}$ elements, using ...
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Proof of correctness of a homomorphic ElGamal sum

Let's suppose we are using the exponential ElGamal as a public-key encryption scheme, so that we encrypt $g^m$ instead of $m$, for some generator $g$. Let $x$ be the private key, and $h=g^x$ be the ...
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Perfect zero knowledge for the Schnorr protocol?

Can somebody explain (or point to a reference) why the Schnorr protocol cannot be proved zero knowledge?
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Logjam on Elliptic Curves?

I think we're all aware of the Logjam attack. From now on we know that re-using primes for DH is a bad idea. But we also say that elliptic curves are safe from the attack (relying on the NFS), ...
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Is Pohlig-Hellman Cipher the only option?

I am looking for a cipher which would allow something like this: E(E(M, a), b) = E(M, ab), where a and b are encryption keys, and ab is a combination of the keys that is impractical to separate into a ...
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Trying to better understand the failure of the Index Calculus for ECDLP

So I'm going to give you guys my understanding and then if you would be so kind as to tell me where I'm off the mark (hopefully I'm not completely wrong). So basically the index calculus for the ...
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Discrete logs on elliptic curve with embedding degree 3 with the 'MOV' attack

The curve $E(\mathbb{F}_{47}):y^2=x^3+x+38$ has order $61$ and $61|47^3-1$ so the embedding degree of $E$ is $3$ and therefore the MOV attack, presumably using some sort of distortion map and a ...
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How can we prove that two discrete logarithms are equal?

Suppose there are two elements $a = g^x$ and $b = h^x$, where $g$ and $h$ are generators in $Z^*_p$ and $p$ is a large prime. How can we prove that $a$ and $b$ have the same discrete logarithms with ...
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Why is NON DISCRETE logarithm problem not hard as the DISCRETE logarithm problem (so computationally hard)?

I've already read this question about the difference between discrete and non discrete logarithms. But I still have problems to clarify my mind about why the Discrete Logarithm Problem is ...
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Why is the Pedersen commitment computationally binding?

This is how the Pedersen commitment seems to work: Let $p$ and $q$ be large primes such that $q \mid (p-1)$, let $g$ be a generator of the order-$q$ subgroup of $Z_p^{\star}$. Let $a$ be a random ...
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some of my confusions about DDH assumption

The wiki defines the decisional Diffie–Hellman assumption as follows: Decisional Diffie–Hellman assumption Consider a (multiplicative) cyclic group $G$ of order $q$, and with generator $g$. The DDH ...
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How robust is discrete logarithm in $GF(2^n)$?

"Normal" discrete logarithm based cryptosystems (DSA, Diffie-Hellman, ElGamal) work in the finite field of integers modulo a big prime $p$. However, there exist other finite fields out there, in ...
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What is a cyclic group of prime order q such that the DLP is hard?

On the original paper on Linked Ring Signatures, in order to construct its scheme, the author relies on this: Let $G = \langle g\rangle$ be a cyclic group of prime order $q$ such that the ...
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How safe is a prime with $P=2 \cdot Q \cdot R \cdot S \cdot t+1$ for discrete logarithm? How to enhance/compare?

To get some certain properties for my use case I need a prime $P$ which has the form: $P=2\cdot Q \cdot R \cdot S \cdot t+1$ with $Q,R,S,t$ primes as well. Why that form - Use case Together with ...
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Reduction of Integer factorization to Discrete logarithm problem

I was reading Eric Bach paper entitles "Discrete logarithms and factoring", in which he states the following reductions: solving the integer factorization problem suffices to solve the discrete ...
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ElGamal with elliptic curves II

There is an encryption scheme using elliptic curves given by @tylo explained here: @tylo's answer on ElGamal with elliptic curves and here: ElGamal with elliptic curves I. The encryption idea is to ...
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iterated discrete log problem

Consider the following problem: given $g_1 \ldots g_i,h_1 \ldots h_i \in G$, $\forall i$ find $x_i$ such that $g_i^{x_i}=h_i$ For $i=1$ this is the discrete log problem and is assumed to to have ...
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What is the difference between discrete logarithm and logarithm? [closed]

Why discrete logarithm? Is discrete logarithm is part of logarithm? I do not understand the difference between these two concepts.
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Why Smart's attack doesn't work on this ECDLP?

The Problem is as follows: ...
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Is the additive discrete Logarithm problem always easy in Fields?

While thinking about additive DH key exchanges, I somehow had the idea that additive DH key exchange may always be easy to break, if we are in a field. So here's (directly) the question: In any ...
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Why is the discrete logarithm problem assumed to be hard?

This might be a quite stupid question: since a naive brute force algorithm to solve the discrete logarithm problem will only take O(n) time for a group G with order ...
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Information sharing using interactive zero-knowledge system

I am trying to build a system that would allow information sharing in a kind of zero-knowledge way. Here is the set up: Let's say there is a trusted third party that has Alice's sensitive info M (e.g....
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Diffie-Hellman key exchange: Why is $(g^{k_1} \bmod n )^{k_2} \bmod n \equiv (g^{k_2} \mod n)^{k_1} \bmod n$

In a Diffie-Hellman key exchange, with a generator $g$ and a modulo $n$, and two keys $k_1$ and $k_2$, why is $(g^{k_1} \bmod n )^{k_2} \bmod n \equiv (g^{k_2} \mod n)^{k_1} \bmod n$
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Using division polynomials to prove that EC discrete log is even

This question is related to the other question I recently asked. I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to use division polynomials to prove that knowing $A = a \cdot G$ we can prove that $a$ is ...
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Is there a fast way to solve $k = n \cdot g^a \mod P$? (get $a$ for unknown $n$)

Would a factor besides the normal discrete logarithm problem increase or decrease the solving time? $k = n \cdot g^a \mod P$ with given $k,g,P$ and the knowledge $P= 2 \cdot N \cdot f+1$, while $...
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Security of pairing-based cryptography over binary fields regarding new attacks

In the last week, the discrete logarithm problem was broken for the binary fields $\mathbb{F}_{2^{(14 \times 127)}}$ and $\mathbb{F}_{2^{(27 \times 73)}}$. Pairing-based cryptography using binary ...
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How can there be insecure elliptic curves if the discrete logarithm problem is hard?

The discrete logarithm problem is the mathematical trap door function underpinning elliptic curve cryptography. If it's naturally hard to climb back through the trap door, how can there be insecure ...
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Is there a practical zero-knowledge proof for this special discrete log equation?

We have a multiplicative cyclic group $G$ with generators $g$ and $h$, as in El Gamal. Assume $G$ is a subgroup of $(\mathbb{Z}/n\mathbb{Z})^*$. There are two parties, Alice and Bob: Alice knows: $...
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Mapping between subgroups and the integers

This question is a companion to the equivalent question on elliptic curves. Preliminaries Diffie-Hellman, Elgamal, DSA, etc. are examples of protocols that work in the integers modulus a large prime ...
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Schnorr protocol: how does malicious verifier win?

My question is about the challenge space size in Schnorr protocol. To be precise, I feel I've read all the Internet (twice) and I still don't understand why is it bad to allow challenge space to be ...
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How to test if a number is a primitive root?

How to test if a number is a primitive root, assuming the modulus is a prime? And if not? Is it not enough if the number is relatively prime to the modulus or prime? I'll write down what I've done ...
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Why aren't there function based discrete log problems?

If discrete logarithm is based on the fact that finding $x$ for $a^x$ is difficult, wouldn't it be difficult to find $n$ such that if $f(x_1) = x_2$ then $f(x_2) = x_3 ... = x_n$ if $x$ is a generator ...
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Why was the term “discrete” used in discrete logarithm?

Is there anything especially "discrete" about a discrete logarithm? This is not a question of what is a discrete logarithm or why the discrete logarithm problem is an "intractable problem" given ...
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Why are elliptic curves over a field of characteristic 2 or 3 insecure?

The following is a quotation from my cryptography course: Recent results on the discrete logarithm raise big concerns on the security of elliptic curves over a binary field. What are these ...
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What does “export grade” cryptography mean? And how is this related to the Logjam attack?

I am doing some research on the Logjam attack, and I need help in learning some terms that are new for me. What does "export grade" cryptography mean? And how is this related to the Logjam attack?
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Discrete logarithm problem is easy in a cyclic group of order a power of two

Let $G=\langle g\rangle$ be a cyclic group of order $2^{k}$ and let $h\in G$. I have read that it is easy to find $\log _{g} h$, but I haven't been able to figure out how. Do you know why this can be ...
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Why are theoretical hash constructions based on the hardness of the discrete logarithm problem not really used in practice?

In an old 2010 Q&A at StackOverflow, Pornin states: … a good hash function "should not" allow a property such as surjectivity to be actually proven. This makes sense to me when looking at, for ...
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Finding where I am in a linear recurrence relation

Suppose I have a linear recurrence relation $$a(n) = c_1 a(n-1) + \dots + c_k a(n-k) + d,$$ where the constants $c_1,\dots,c_k,d$ are given and the initial values $a(0),\dots,a(k-1)$ are given as well....
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A discrete-log-like problem, with matrices: given $A^k x$, find $k$

Let $p$ be a large prime; we will work in $GF(p)$. Let $A$ be a $n\times n$ matrix. Also, let $x$ be a $n$-vector and $k$ a positive integer. Suppose we are given $p$, $A$, $x$, and $y$. The goal ...
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How to calculate the time it'll take to crack RSA or DH?

Sometimes the easiest way to describe security of a type of cryptography is to say that "the time it takes to solve for an x-bit key would be y years". How would one go about doing such a calculation ...
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Why is the discrete log problem easy when the exponent comes from a binomial distribution?

I read in http://epubs.surrey.ac.uk/7219/2/esorics06.pdf that in exponential El Gamal the discrete log problem for recovering $m$ from $g^m$ can be made tractable when $m$ is drawn from a binomial ...