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Elliptic curves are algebraic-geometric structures with applications in cryptography. Such a curve consists of the set of solutions to a cubic equation over a finite field equipped with a group operation. Questions relating to elliptic curves and derived algorithms should use this tag and might also consider more specific tags such as discrete-logarithm and ecdsa.

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What is the point at infinity on secp256k1 and how to calculate it?

I hear that there should be a point at infinity on secp256k1. I wounder how to calculate it and what does it even mean. I tried to calculate it as $P_{inf}=P+(-P)$ but this gives different results for ...
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Should we trust the NIST-recommended ECC parameters?

Recent articles in the media, based upon Snowden documents, have suggested that the NSA has actively tried to enable surveillance by embedding weaknesses in commercially-deployed technology -- ...
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ElGamal with elliptic curves

I've searched some information on ECC, but so far I have only found Diffie-Hellman key-exchange implementations using ECC, but I don't want to exchange keys, I want to encrypt & decrypt data like ...
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Curve25519 Key Validation

According to the original paper of Bernstein, there is no key validation needed when using Curve25519 for Diffie-Hellman Key Exchange. However, where does this property come from? Is there any proof ...
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Summarize the mathematical problem at the heart of breaking a Curve25519 public key

It's pretty easy to generate a Curve25519 private key: generate 32 random bytes of data and then do: e[0] &= 248 e[31] &= 127 e[31] |= 64 You can then ...
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What is the relationship between p (prime), n (order) and h (cofactor) of an elliptic curve?

I am reading up on ECC and having trouble understanding how these are related. In a finite field, all point operations are taken modulo $p$. $n$ is the order of the generator $G$ — which apparently ...
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Using same keypair for Diffie-Hellman and signing

Are there any security risks using a single key-pair for both key-exchange and signing? I'm mainly interested in using Curve25519 for key-exchange and Ed25519 for signing. But similar combinations, ...
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After ECDH with Curve25519, is it pointless to use anything stronger than AES-128?

Is the following reasoning correct: After ECDH with Curve25519, the resulting shared secret will be an EC public key with a bit strength of 128 bits. This public key would then be hashed (let's say ...
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How do I multiply two points on an elliptic curve?

Tell me if there is a way to multiply two points on an elliptic curve? For example, as in secp256k1 ...
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Is there a feasible method by which NIST ECC curves over prime fields could be intentionally rigged?

The NIST elliptic curves P-192, P-224, P-256, P-384, and P-521, prescribed in FIPS 186-4 appendix D.1.2, are generated according to a well defined process, but using an arbitrary random-looking seed ...
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How to create an EC point from a plaintext message for encryption

It seems that ElGamal encryption is also possible for Elliptic Curve cryptography. However, that requires the user to convert the message to a point on the curve. What strategies are there to derive a ...
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Why is elliptic curve cryptography not widely used, compared to RSA?

I recently ran across elliptic curve crypto-systems: An Introduction to the Theory of Elliptic Curves (Brown University) Elliptic Curve Cryptography (Wikipedia) Performance analysis of identity ...
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Why Curve25519 for encryption but Ed25519 for signatures?

NaCl and libsodium libraries use Curve25519 for authenticated encryption (actually for sharing a key which is used for encryption) and Ed25519 for signatures. What is the purpose of using different ...
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How to determine the order of an elliptic curve group from its parameters?

Let $\quad E:\; y^2 = x^3 + ax + b \quad$ be an elliptic curve defined over a finite field $\mathbb F_q$ where $q = p^n$, $a,b \in \mathbb F_q$ and $p \neq 2, 3$. By Hasse's theorem we know that the ...
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EC Schnorr signature: multiple standard?

I'm working on some EC-Schnorr signature code. Reading various papers on that, it seems EC-Schnorr is not standardized as well as ECDSA. For example, I found two main differences in two main actors ...
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Curve25519 over Ed25519 for key exchange? Why?

I've been reading up on the Signal Protocol (in this PDF) and it seems to be using Curve25519 for ECDH and EdDSA (with Ed25519) for signatures. My question is why not use only Ed25519? This ...
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Can elliptic curve cryptography encrypt with public key and decrypt with private key like RSA?

I know that RSA can be used for both, encryption and signature. What about EC? I know about ECDSA/EdDSA, but to my knowledge it can only be used to sign. I also know about ECDH, but it is a key ...
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Can you tell me why doing scalar multiplication of a point on a Elliptic curve over a finite field gets to a point at infinity?

I am reading Programming Bitcoin. The author said: Another property of scalar multiplication is that at a certain multiple, we get to the point at infinity (remember, the point at infinity is the ...
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Who uses Dual_EC_DRBG?

Recent news articles have suggested that the NSA may be involved in trying to influence the cryptography in public standards or commercially deployed software, to enable the NSA to decrypt the ...
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How does recovering the public key from an ECDSA signature work?

It is possible to recover the public key from an ECDSA signature values $(r,s)$? Please explain how this works.
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When using Curve25519, why does the private key always have a fixed bit at 2^254?

When using Curve25519, the private key always seems to have a fixed bit set at position $2^{254}$. Why is that? Is there any good reason to use a fixed positioned most-significant-bit in the private ...
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What the X stands for in the front of Elliptic curve names like X25519

I have seen Curve25519 and X25519, Curve448 and X448. I've seen a small note in this answer (Historical note: Originally, X25519 was called Curve25519, but now Curve25519 just means the elliptic ...
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Why can ECC key sizes be smaller than RSA keys for similar security?

I understand how ECC is based on the discrete log problem and RSA on integer factorization. I've read several references that show how a solution to either of these problems can typically be adapted ...
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Why are NaCl secret keys 64 bytes for signing, but 32 bytes for box?

Ed25519 secret and public keys can both be represented in 32 bytes. Why does NaCl use 64 byte signing keys?
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Elliptic Curves of different forms

Looking at http://safecurves.cr.yp.to/ to find a safe curve, I find that most curves described here are of a different form from that generally used. In Bouncy Castle, for example, ...
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How does the MOV attack work?

What exactly is the MOV attack, how does it actually work, and what is it used for? It's explained briefly here and I'd like to know what it is more / what is it fully used for.
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Using a single Ed25519 key for encryption and signature

The libsodium documentation contains a function crypto_sign_ed25519_pk_to_curve25519 that converts an Ed25519 key into a Curve25519 one, so it can be used for both ...
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How does encryption work in elliptic curve cryptography?

So I think I understand a good amount of the theory behind elliptic curve cryptography, however I am slightly unclear on how exactly a message in encrypted and then how is it decrypted. So my ...
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How does one calculate the scalar multiplication on elliptic curves?

I found this example online: In the elliptic curve group defined by $$y^2 = x^3 + 9x + 17 \quad \text{over } \mathbb{F}_{23},$$ what is the discrete logarithm $k$ of $Q = (4,5)$ to the base $...
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Is it safe to reuse a ECDSA nonce for two signatures if the public keys are different?

We denote the s value of an ECDSA signature $(r, s)$ on a message $m$ as: $s=\frac{H(m)+xr}{k}$ Assume two ECDSA signatures sharing the same nonce $(r, s_1) , (r, s_2)$ on two messages $m_1, m_2$, ...
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ECDH security when no KDF is used

Let's suppose our device performs ECDH with a fixed, unknown, private key $\text{prv}$. It accepts as input any point $Q$ lying in the proper subgroup of the proper elliptic curve, then computes: $P =...
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Can ECDSA signatures be safely made "deterministic"?

Using the terminology of the ECDSA Wikipedia page, ECDSA (and DSA) signatures require a random k value for each signature which ensures that the signature is different each time even if the message ...
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What is so special about elliptic curves?

There seems to be sources like this, this also, and some introductions that discuss elliptic curves in general and how they're used. But what I'd like to know is why these particular curves are so ...
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Why would anyone use an elliptic curve with a cofactor > 1?

In cryptography, an elliptic curve is a group based on a finite field $GF(p^k)$; this group has $n$ elements on it, and we work on a prime-sized subgroup of size $q$. We denote the value $h = n/q$ as ...
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ECDSA Compressed public key point back to uncompressed public key point

From the ECDH demo here, if I generate a private key for Alice I can get _ P = 1175846487558108474218546536054752289210804601041 Which gives the following public ...
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Mapping points between elliptic curves and the integers

My primary question is: Is there an easy way to create a bijective mapping from points on an elliptic curve E (over a finite field) to the integers (desirably to $\mathbb{Z}^*_q$ where $q$ is the ...
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Why are elliptic curve variants of RSA "chiefly of academic interest"?

Yesterday I was thinking about elliptic curve variants of popular protocols/algorithms (ECDH, ECES[1], etc) and the thought occured that I had never seen an elliptic curve variant of RSA. My ...
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Can curve25519 keys be used with ed25519 keys?

Can curve25519 keys be used with ed25519? I'd prefer to use ed25519, but there isn't a fast java version. For my application, I'd like to use curve25519 until I can get a faster ed25519 for java. ...
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Base point in Ed25519?

The paper "High-speed high-security signatures" by Bernstein et al. introduces the Edwards curve Ed25519. Concerning the base point $B$, it says that $B$ is the unique point $(x, 4/5)\in E$ for ...
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Graphically representing points on Elliptic Curve over finite field

I have taken elliptic curve $E\colon y^2=x^3-4x+20$, defined over $\mathbb{F}_{29}$. The number of points on the curve, $\left|E(\mathbb{F}_{29})\right|=37$. I took base point $P=(1,5)$, and got ...
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Key equivalence across different elliptic curves

Is it possible to prove key-equivalence across elliptic curves of different order? Specifically: Suppose I have a key $x$ valid for both curves listed below On curve $g$ (for example, Curve25519) it ...
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Get the parameters of an elliptic curve's equation

I have a binary signed with ECDSA384 and I need to verify it using a particular cryptography library. The first thing that needs to be done is to initialize the EC ...
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ECDSA, EdDSA and ed25519 relationship / compatibility

I'm trying to understand the relationship between those three signature schemes (ECDSA, EdDSA, and ed25519) and mainly to what degree they are mutually compatible in the sense of key-pair derivation, ...
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Current mathematics theory used in cryptography/coding theory

What are the mainstream techniques borrowed from algebraic geometry (or some other branch of mathematics) which are currently used in cryptography/coding theory? I've only heard about a small subset ...
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Schnorr signatures: multisignature support

Schnorr signature is mentioned as a promising upgrade to bitcoin to improve scalability. It support multisignature, several signatures can be aggregated into a single, new signature. But I fail to ...
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What does the special form of the base point of secp256k1 allow?

The popular ECC parameters secp256k1 are documented in SEC2 as using curve $y^2\equiv x^3+a\cdot x+b\pmod p$ with $a=0$, $b=7$, $p=2^{256}-2^{32}-\mathtt{3d1_h}$, base point $G$ with the apparently ...
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Edwards / Montgomery ECC with Weierstrass Implementation?

So let's assume I want to perform Ed448 or Ed25519 digital signatures or want to perform a DH key-exchange. Assume further that those curves (Curve448 or Curve25519) are required. But the problem is, ...
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Are all possible EC private keys valid?

I usually generate a key pair using OpenSSL or Bouncy Castle. I'm using curve secp256k1. The 256bit private keys look fairly random. Do all values of "private ...
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Logjam on Elliptic Curves?

I think we're all aware of the Logjam attack. From now on we know that re-using primes for DH is a bad idea. But we also say that elliptic curves are safe from the attack (relying on the NFS), ...
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Trying to better understand the failure of the Index Calculus for ECDLP

So I'm going to give you guys my understanding and then if you would be so kind as to tell me where I'm off the mark (hopefully I'm not completely wrong). So basically the index calculus for the ...
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