Questions tagged [elliptic-curves]

Elliptic curves are algebraic-geometric structures with applications in cryptography. Such a curve consists of the set of solutions to a cubic equation over a finite field equipped with a group operation. Questions relating to elliptic curves and derived algorithms should use this tag and might also consider more specific tags such as discrete-logarithm and ecdsa.

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$\phi$ function in Dual_EC_DRBG

I am trying to understand the operation of the Dual_EC_DRBG. I'm reading the formal specification (SP 800-90) and can't seem to find a definition of the $\phi$ function used throughout the definition ...
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Adding and multiplication in jacobian coordinates

How can I derive formulas for adding 2 points and multiplication by a scalar in Jacobian coordinates $(x,y) = (\frac{X}{Z^2},\frac{Y}{Z^3})$ over an elliptic curve?
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Elliptic Curve Encryption Ciphertext Size

I'd like to know how much bigger is the ciphertext when encrypting a message using ECC encrytpion? ECIES (or ElGamal)
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In elliptic curve cryptography, how is “A dot A” computed?

I was just reading Ars Technica's primer on ECC. Somewhere near the middle of the second page, the author introduces the "dot" operation that takes an elliptic curve and two other known points, giving ...
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About Elliptic Curve ElGamal, 3 simple problems I have trouble with

In Elliptic Curve ElGamal, why are a=b=1 always legal for primes whose lengths are no shorter than 11(2) bits long? Is there any reason why the Point at Infinity can always be encoded as (0,0)? ...
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Signature algorithm SHA 1-2 with ECDSA

Can someone please explain what key sizes are required for the ECDSA algorithm? I tried a 128 bit EC Key for SHA1withECDSA and it throws an error. However with 256 bit key I could run the algorithm. ...
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What is so special about elliptic curves?

There seems to be sources like this, this also, and some introductions that discuss elliptic curves in general and how they're used. But what I'd like to know is why these particular curves are so ...
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Elliptic Curve Factorization: Why are elliptic curves suited for this kind of task?

Currently I'm working on a presentation of a paper that talks about the factorization of large numbers. In the paper elliptic curves are presented as a way to factorize large numbers. After hearing a ...
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Verify Messages to Embedded Device

I'm building an embedded device that I plan on distributing. Periodically the device will poll my server to check for updates and commands. I'd like the device to verify that any messages(JSON strings ...
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Derive a public EC key from two public EC keys

Alice has two EC key pairs: $a_1$, $a_2$ are private keys (integers), $A_1$, $A_2$ are the corresponding public keys (points). Alice and Bob want to create a new public key $C$. Alice must prove that ...
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Subtracting a point in elliptic curve cryptography?

I've had lots of practice adding points for my crypto class. However I've run into a situation where I need to subtract two points for decryption: ...
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With TLS and ECDHE, how does curve selection work?

Given that a TLS client and server have already agreed upon ECDHE for session key establishment, how does the selection of the actual elliptic curve ("domain parameters") being used for deriving the ...
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Timing Attacks on ECDSA, ECDHE, AES and SHA2

Are there any known timing attacks (both practical and theoretical) on any implementations of the following? ECDSA (I'm aware of this one - are there any applicable to prime fields?), ECDHE (again, ...
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How do I know if a given curve requires a FpCurve F2mCurve or ECCCurve?

I'm trying to read a public key into Bouncy Castle (secp256k1) and need to choose from the following objects FpPoint; FpCurve; or ...
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Efficiency of computing $e(P,Q)$ Vs $g^a \pmod{p}$?

The definition of $e$ can be seen here. I want to know the accurate comparison of efficiency between $e(\cdot,\cdot)$ and $g^a \pmod{p}$. If computing $e(P,Q)$ is less efficient than computing $g^a \...
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Can you help me understand ECC Cryptography and it's algorithm?

I want to know the basic understanding of ECC algorithm for cryptography. But I am not aware of the algorithm. Can anyone provide me with a basic explanation of the algorithm?
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How to properly add ECDSA private keys?

I'm currently working on an application that requires me to add two ECDSA private keys in order to make a new private key. The result has to have the property, that its corresponding public key is the ...
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Is using Ed25519 parameters in ECDSA safe?

I recently discovered the Curve25519 key exchange lib and the Ed25519 signature lib. Due to the speculations about NIST-designed curves, there is a chance that I ditch them and use the curves above ...
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ECDSA - point order criterion

i am creating some primitive demostration for ECDSA over small curve (p < 229). But my implementation have some weird issues. Verify process return false even if the signature is correct. Because I ...
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Key space: Dense and sparse

I'm taking a cryptography class and I come across these terms dense and sparse key space allt he time. What do they mean? As far as I can I understand, dense key space means that there are more ...
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Does BouncyCastle (for ECC) resist timing attacks? [closed]

I need to extend the TLS protocol to be able to use other key exchange scheme based on elliptic curves. I am planning to use BouncyCastle's implementation in Java and in .NET. I am worring about ...
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Relationship between Elliptic Curve Discrete Log, Integer Discrete Log, and Integer Factorization

I am trying to look into a relation between the following three problems which are widely used to build public crypto systems: Integer Discrete log Elliptic Curve Discrete log Integer Factorization ...
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Curve parameter for hyperelliptic curve cryptography?

RFC5639 defines some curve parameter for Elliptic curve cryptography. Aren't there any curve parameter database for Hyperelliptic curve cryptography? What I can only find was that written in this PDF....
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Elliptic Curve Cryptography Encryption Results

I'm playing around with a package that does Elliptic Curve Cryptography from http://jecc.sourceforge.net/ Every time I encrypt a value it produced a different result (same private key). However I'm ...
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Elliptic curve cryptography attack vector

I would expect a complicated answer for what seems like a simple question about Elliptic curve cryptography. I've read several entries here such as "Elliptic curve cryptography related key attacks" ...
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How to calculate y value from ((y*y) mod prime) efficiently

i am working ECC-224 bit. can any one tell me, how to calculate y value from ((y*y) mod prime) efficiently for large bit numbers.
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What crypto system allows for 3 parties: Party 1 who makes an assertion, Party 2 mutates the assertion, Party 3 validates it

I'm looking for the cryptographic equivalent of a Drivers license where the issuer can be verified, the issuer doesn't need to know who you showed the drivers license to, but also allows per-...
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Using single EC cert/keying material to derive symmetric encryption key (for storage)?

The situation involves a single party (single certificate) who would want to AES encrypt a file that they can later decrypt. Assume the EC certificate + EC keys have a purpose i.e. "File encryption" (...
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Possible ECC backdoor and its impact on Internet traffic

In a recent article, Bruce Schneier suggested that he prefers classic discrete log crypto over ECC because "I no longer trust the constants. I believe the NSA has manipulated them through their ...
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Hide a weakness in ECC by choosing the prime or one of the curve coefficients

Suppose you are given a value $c$. Can you find a prime $p$ and an integer $b$ such that the elliptic curve $$E: y^2 \equiv x^3 -3x + b \pmod p$$ is cryptographically weak? You need to choose $p,b$...
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Proof of elliptic curve difficulty

Are there any proofs that cryptographic functions on an elliptic curve are any more difficult than the analogues over modulo arithmetic? While at present, ECC appears to be more difficult, as it is ...
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Where can I double check my elliptic curve results?

I am trying to do some elliptic curve calculations by hand, just to refresh myself on how the system works. I calculated some points and did some operations by hand. I am trying to double check my ...
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Finite fields and ECC

I understand modular arithmetic(or at least I think I do!) and I've tried to read and learn about how the Math in RSA works(and I think it went pretty well). I've been reading up on ECC and it looks ...
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Elliptic curve parameter generation

I am curious of the details of how one would go about generating elliptic curve parameters. (I know standardized parameters exist, but I'm trying to understand both how they were generated and the ...
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Is size Q equal to size SHA(Q)? [closed]

Assume d is a 128 bit random integer and P is base point of an elliptic curve and Q = dP is a point on the elliptic curve and SHA is a hash function with 128 bit output, my question is: Is size Q ...
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Three-way key exchange with elliptic curves without pairing

Assume that there are three users, each with their own secret key $d_i$ and the corresponding public key $Q_i = d_i \cdot P$, such that $Q_i$ is a point on an elliptic curve and $P$ is a base point on ...
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How Were secp*k1 elliptic curve generators chosen?

The Koblitz elliptic curves specified in the SEC2 document https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.secg.org%2Fcollateral%2Fsec2_final.pdf all have the nice feature that the parameters are ...
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What is the fastest elliptic curve operation f(P) in affine coordinates such that f^n(P)=P only if n is large?

I'm working with the affine representations of points of the Secp256k1 elliptic curve (from Bitcoin). I've read many papers that show that computing some functions, like $f(P)=3P$ can be computed ...
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How strong is the ECDSA algorithm?

Some cryptographic algorithms are as strong as the size of their key is, while other have some weaknesses that limit their strength (such as SHA-1). How strong is the ECDSA algorithm, and does that ...
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Generating non-supersingular elliptic curves for symmetric pairings

I am looking into the application of pairings in CPABE in particular. I've notice that the scheme uses a supersingular curve as the basis of the pairing. Looking through Ben Lynn's thesis for the ...
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Finite fields in elliptic curve

I have an elliptic curve defined over finite field where $S_1=aP$ . Is it valid to say that $S_1P$ can also be computed. $P$ is the generator of the group. What my real question is that. Should '$a$' ...
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How can I tell which curve a given ECDSA implementation uses? (P-521 or something else)

I'd like to test and see if certain software uses P-521 ECC curves, or if it uses another variant. Without having access to the sourcecode, or the specification, is there any way for me to test which ...
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using elliptic curve point multiplication as a key stretching method

My friend came up with the following idea: assuming we agreed on curve parameters, use the following algorithm for key stretching/derivation from user-entered password. Pad the ascii representation ...
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Which area of Maths should I pursue?

I would like to know which area of Mathematics would be most beneficial to cryptography. Surely Algebraic Number Theory and maybe to a lesser extend, Elliptic Curves, are closely linked to ...
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Is there a problem with this non-ECDSA message signing?

Is there a problem with signing a message like this? ...
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Why are elliptic curves better than cyclic groups?

The set of points of an elliptic curve over a finite field is isomorphic to the direct product of two cyclic groups (i.e. $E(F_{p^n}) \cong Z_{s} \times Z_{t})$. What is the advantage of representing ...
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ECC Point Multiplication of Product

I can calculate $Q = a\,b\,G$ in several ways: $Q = a \, (b \, G)$ or $Q = b \, (a \, G)$. These give the same result, as expected. But if I do $c = (a \, b) \bmod n$ where $a \, b$ is much greater ...
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Can somebody explain the major contributions of the tenants of the Gödel Prize 2013?

As you may know, the Gödel Prize 2013 will be awarded this year to cryptographers (see this ACM press release). The people awarded are Antoine Joux, the team of Dan Boneh and Matthew K. Franklin. Can ...
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calculating beta for elgamal elliptic curves [duplicate]

Suppose we use elgamal elliptic curves for secure communication. Bob selects a prime $p$, an elliptic curve $E$, a point $\alpha$ on $E \pmod p$, and a secret integer $f$. Suppose that Bob has ...
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Trying to better understand the failure of the Index Calculus for ECDLP

So I'm going to give you guys my understanding and then if you would be so kind as to tell me where I'm off the mark (hopefully I'm not completely wrong). So basically the index calculus for the ...