Questions tagged [pbkdf-2]

The Password-Based Key Derivation Function 2 (PBKDF2) is a method of securely deriving encryption keys from a passphrase entered by a user. It features an iteration count that can be deliberately adjusted (key stretching) to slow down brute force password guessing attacks.

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How can one securely generate an asymmetric key pair from a short passphrase?

Background info: I am planning on making a filehost with which one can encrypt and upload files. To protect the data against any form of hacking, I'd like not to know the encryption key ($K$) used for ...
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How to derive two keys from one password

What is the best way to generate two independent symmetric keys from one user-entered password or passphrase? Would using both scrypt and pbkdf2 achieve this?
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How to salt PBKDF2, when generating both an AES key and a HMAC key for Encrypt then MAC?

When using Encrypt-then-MAC with AES and HMAC by password, and given 128 bits of payload with the ciphertext to store a random salt, which would be more secure: Using PBKDF2 with then entire 128 bit ...
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Is it problematic to use PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA256 to derive a 512-bit XTS key?

PBKDF2 should only be used to generate a larger output than the hash function it uses if the output is used in such a way that it has a flat keyspace. As far as I am aware, XTS does not have a flat ...
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PBKDF2 and salt

I want to ask some questions about the PBKDF2 function and generally about the password-based derivation functions. Actually we use the derivation function together with the salt to provide ...
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PBKDF2 for key diversification

I am looking for a secure key diversification function to create individual AES keys for a local smart card deployment. The keys need to be derived from a secret master key and the smart card serial ...
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Why is the salt used only once in PBKDF2, while the password is used often?

The purpose of PBKDF2 is to create a derived key (DK) from a master password (PW) and a salt, often using a function like HMAC-SHA256. I have read that the salt should be as random as possible. But ...
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Is a PBKDF2-derived master key easier cracked if very many Data Protection Keys are derived from it?

I'm referring the NIST document about PBKDF2, NIST Special Publication 800-132, Recommendation for Password-Based Key Derivation, Part 1: Storage Applications, Page 8 and 9, section 5.4 Using the ...
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Is it safe to split the output of PBKDF2?

I would like to know if splitting a key generated by PBKDF2 to derive two keys is a safe practice. Concretely, in my system, I need to derive two keys. One for symmetric cipher used in the client ...
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What's the difference between PBKDF and SHA and why use them together?

I've been reading a little bit about hashing lately and according to AgileBits, they use "SHA512 within PBKDF2" in their new vault file. I've looked in Wikipedia for both names and I know PBKDF2 is a ...
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What is the difference between Scrypt and PBKDF2?

After reading these two resources I am wondering am I getting all the differences between Scrypt and PBKDF2. As far as I understood, the similarity is: both are password-based key derivation ...
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Is PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA1 really broken?

I just read through this article which demonstrates practical (and seemingly trivial) collisions in PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA1, and provides a few examples of collisions. Am I missing something here? Is PBKDF2-...
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Should I salt an AES password at each encryption?

I saw a sample code where the same password is salted with a different value (using PBKDF2) for each encryption. That means that the salt must be stored for each encrypted message. I don't understand ...
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What are KDF parameters in OpenSSL command-line utility for `enc`?

I refer to https://www.openssl.org/docs/manmaster/apps/enc.html and see that the only parameter for key derivation which I can set explicitly (not considering the obvious ...
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Does salt size affect password hash security?

I use PBKDF2-SHA512 with an iteration count of 128,000 to hash my passwords. I use a CSPRNG to generate a salt per password. However, I am unsure about the ideal size of the salt. I have read a lot of ...
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Computing IV for CBC from PBKDF2 + HKDF

Note that this question is somewhat similar to Can I use my random IV (for AES) as a salt for PBKDF2? My current encryption format computes two random PBKDF2 salts (encryption and HMAC, 8 bytes each) ...
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Can I use my random IV (for AES) as a salt for PBKDF2?

Also, where do I store my salt (can I just store it at the beginning of the encrypted file)?
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Can I dynamically calculate an appropriate number of iterations for PBKDF2 based on the system time, rather than using a fixed value?

Could you choose the number of PBKDF2 iterations based upon the system time? I've heard a few people recommend that the number of iterations for PBKDF2 should be doubled every two years (starting ...
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PBKDF2 uses HMAC-SHA1 to generate keys, but what is the key for the HMAC?

I was reading up on PBKDF2 and noted the following: DK = PBKDF2(PRF, Password, Salt, c, dkLen) PRF is a keyed HMAC, but I can't seem to find out what they use ...
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PBKDF2WithHmacSHA512 Vs. PBKDF2WithHmacSHA1?

I'm working on a Java authentication subsystem that specs the storage of passwords in the DB as PBKDF2-generated hashes, and I'm now trying to decide whether I ...
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Can I use a key-derivation-function as the hash function H in SRP?

In the Secure Remote Password Protocol, the verifier must be stored on the server. In the case of a server compromise, an attacker could obtain these verifiers. If nobody reused passwords, this ...
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Hash function in PBKDF2

From this excellent answer I learned (correct me if I am wrong) that when writing a block cipher with say key size 128 bit, one has to pad the password given (variable size) so that it becomes exactly ...
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Can PBKDF2 be used to create an XOR cipher key to encrypt random plaintext?

I want to encrypt a truly random plaintext (a key file) based on a user password. I'll use PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA256 to generate an encryption key from the password, but I'm wondering if I even need to ...
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pbkdf2 password validation

My question is related to PBKDF2. I am unsure how to validate user entered password with already existing hashes and salts. I have heard of the so called "length-constant" comparison which basically ...
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Using PBKDF2 twice with different argument order

I'm pretty sure this is a really bad approach (in theory), but one of my clients is doing this and I was wondering… How bad it is to perform pbkdf-2 in this way (with 2000 iterations)? ...
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What is the difference between KDFs for key derivation vs password stretching?

This was mentioned in the comments to another question: To clarify: This is about key-stretching KDFs. Not the kind for diversifying keys (eg. HKDF) and There are two kinds of KDF, the slow, ...
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PBKDF2 with longer than native output length - Will hashing the result help?

I've seen it mentioned more than once that PBKDF2 should not be used to create a longer key than the native output (such as 160 bits when used with HMACSHA1). Since an attacker could test only the ...
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Is there a practical upper limit for password rehashing?

When using PBKDF2, is there a practical upper limit to the iteration count above which we lose security? Note: If you answer “No”, that's fine. But if you answer: “There can't be an upper limit“, ...
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Derive both MAC and AES keys from same PBKDF2? [duplicate]

When doing password-based encryption, is it OK to create one instance of PBKDF2 from the password, and then use it to create both the AES key and the MAC key? (Or should a new instance of PBKDF2 be ...
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PBKDF2 with the same salt for all IDs

I have a unique identifiers that I would like to keep secure and provide information about it through tokens. These tokens should be verifiable after using the same algorithm on other end system with ...
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Encryption Key derivation from numeric PIN?

I want to store data encrypted within an Android application. Keeping an encryption key safe outside the app is not an option so I looked into password derived key algorithms. I found a nice example ...
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Maximum password length in PBKDF2

Haven't found any clear cut answer in Google so its up to you guys: DK = PBKDF2(PRF, Password, Salt, c, dkLen) Here, what is the upper limit of password length? ...
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A key-derivation function that is as strong as the stronger of PBKDF2 and scrypt

I want a key stretching system that's as strong as the stronger of scrypt and PBKDF2. The consensus now is that scrypt is by far the better system, but that might change if in the future, a weakness ...
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Securely generating passwords based on a secret and a public identifier

I'm trying to create a good scheme for generating passwords in my systems management scripts. What I'd like to do is have a secret key (let's say hello123), which I ...
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What is the most secure way to check that a given masterkey is valid?

For the purposes of learning, I'm writing a small utility that allows encrypting a list of passwords using a single master key (using AES-256 and PBKDF2) Before encrypting or decrypting any password ...
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Rfc2898DeriveBytes - password length

Trying to find related answer for a long time, but not convinced yet. What I am trying is to encrypt using RijndaelManaged. To create Key, I am passing password, ...
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Generating passwords using Password-Based Key Derivation Function

I was thinking of using different and independent password for different websites, but not storing them in some password manager so I don't need to backup the passwords. I thought I could use some ...
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Generate secure password hashes without access to PBKDF2 or bcrypt

Given is a system, which does provide only implementations of fast hash algorithms (MD5, SHA1, SHA-256, SHA-512). There is no implementation of PBKDF2, bcrypt or scrypt available. The system does ...
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Deriving a key from a pseudo-random string

I would like to know if deriving a key from a pseudo-random string with a single iteration is secure. Concretely, I am designing a system where a secret key is derived in the client side, and then ...
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Argon2id internal iterations vs multiple Argon2id calls ?

TLDR; Is there a security risk if rather than setting the iteration parameter to 12 (for example), we set it to 3 but call the function 4 times? I'm asking that for 2 reasons: Firstly, we use SRP ...
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Increased AES key lengths vs keyphrase entropy

I'm selecting an AES key size for a LUKS partition using XTS-PLAIN64. XTS will effectively reduce the AES key strength in half. The default key size for AES XTS-PLAIN64 is 256 bits (meaning 128 bits ...
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Secure algorithm for calculating token and comparison

I am trying to define algorithm that would create a irreversible token from IDs, which are 10 digit information, and then would be compared on two different end points. Between end points, only ...