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Why is AES not a Feistel cipher?

I am studying for an exam right now. And I wanted to make sure I got this point correct. AES is not a Feistel cipher because the operations in AES are not invertible. Is the above statement correct?...
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What is the diffrence between Feistel networks and SPN?

I recently read about the concept of Feistel Networks and Substitution Permutation Networks but what is exactly the difference between the two ?
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Increase number of rounds for SPN and Feistel ciphers

Read a post on Schneiers blog (and again 2011) about increasing the number of rounds for AES from to "AES-128 at 16 rounds, AES-192 at 20 rounds, and AES-256 at 28 rounds" to raise the security. ...
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Using a round function intended for an SP network in a Feistel network?

If I use the round function from a secure SP network (such as AES) and use it in a Feistel netwok, is this a good starting point for the second cipher? My thought is "yes" because: it already has ...
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Would there be any advantage in combining Feistel network and substitution-permutation network in a single cipher?

One common way to design invertible block ciphers is using a Feistel network used in for example DES and Blowfish. Another common way is a substitution-permutation network used in for example Rijndael ...
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DES/AES invertibility

My professor has posted a couple of practice questions that so far I haven't been able to find the answer for and I was hoping you could help. DES would remain invertible—it would still be ...
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Can we design a block cipher based on SP-network without loss of E/D similarity theoretically?

I understand what SP-network (Substitution-Permutation Network) and Feistel Network look like. And those ciphers based on Feistel (e.g. DES) often achieve so called E/D similarity, which indicates ...
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