# Any point to AES on password with hardcoded key?

I'm inheriting a project that stores a used password in a config file, which is generated by the user giving their password in plain text, and the project giving back a key generated through .NET's Rfc2898DeriveBytes with a given salt on the aes encrypted cipher text (which the user then has to put in the config themselves). The password is decrypted and used when the project starts up for that user.

Since the key and salt are statically compiled into the project as strings, it seem kinda pointless to me, like basically its the same as storing a jibberish password in plain text, with added overhead, right?

Am I missing something here?

### EDIT

After asking around about the code, the point is that we're giving this application to a different team to run under a network domain account, so we wanted to prevent them from having the password for the account the program is supposed to run under.

• Your protocol description is not clear to me. Are there two passwords, one in the code and one used as input by the user? On which one is PBKDF2 (RFC-2898) used? A static salt is never of much use, that's the only thing certain so far. – Maarten Bodewes Sep 20 '17 at 15:08
• right so the (pseudo)code is like PBKDF2(AES("userSuppliedPassword","const string key"),"const string salt") which is copied by the user, and stored in a config file, then when the project is run, it's run in reverse with the same const string key and const string salt. Seems pointless to me – Austin_Anderson Sep 20 '17 at 15:27
• Not sure I grasp your description correctly. So far I understand from the pseudo-code in your comment that AES is obviously only used to create a combined password (user key, encrypted with fixed key) to feed that to PBKDF2 together with a seperate salt. So far, it all makes sense from a cryptographic point of view. But you lost me when writing when the project is run, it's run in reverse… as KDF's usually don't tend to be reversible. Am I correct to assume that you meant to say – upon each startup, the PBKDF2 function recreates the same derived password using the stored user key and salt? – e-sushi Sep 20 '17 at 16:38
• ah I missread the code, it's using the pseudo code I posted to generate the actual key to encrypt with, then encrypts and decrypts with that, but the fact remains it's the same salt and aes key each time for encryption and decryption – Austin_Anderson Sep 20 '17 at 16:46

## 1 Answer

Obviously it would be easy to decrypt the password for any serious attacker, but it might help deter casual attackers. Instead of opening the config file in a text editor and finding the password they would have to decompile and decrypt it, or snoop the memory while it's running. It might also help to stop automated tools that may be searching the filesystem for documents containing things like "password=xxx".

• So basically it's security-by-obscurity, which helps against "noob hacker" that can't hack your application, but somehow could if you didn't do this magic = Case that never happens. – axapaxa Feb 18 '18 at 3:59